It's May 25, 2024, 07:21:56 AM
yeah i dont see the big deal. 400 years of captivity , rapes, beatings, mutilations and forced labor while being fed endtrails to eat is peanuts and defitely does not have a direct effect on the black condition today. besides, those reparations they promised but never issued really leveled the playing field for blacks and now everything is equal and racism doesn't exist and no more blacks suffer because of it. thank god the police love us.
Were the scots not slaves?Were the Russians not slaves under SerfdomWere the Ukranians slaves to the Bolsheviks?What about the whites who worked to death in the sugar mills of the Caribbean prior to the arrival of black slaves?What about the white children sold into being slaves in the work housesWhat about the hundreds of thousands of white slaves who died on the ships to America? (not voluntary workers, I am talking about those who had no choice).What about in England the 5 year old boys whipped and beaten, whose only purpose to clean the chimneys of their masters?No rights, no protections, no respect, no health care, no hope and yet I have to read pathetic spineless white people bitch about how evil whites are and read the thoughts of self righteous black people who seem to care not about any of these facts.Oh but these people didn't wear chains....!!!! you think if these poor people were deemed to be answering back or getting out of line that they wouldn't be chained up and beaten?!Then it hits me, this IS about racism, racism towards white people, a loathing which has been programmed in, a belittling towards both the plight that white people have endured, and a loathing when the actions of evil are inflicted by white people.Do I read passionate threads from these people about the REAL and actual and fairly open practice of slavery still practiced in Africa, you know black people making other blacks their slaves, NOPE My stance is quite clear FUCK YOU to all racism and to the pathetic grovelling whites I say get a grip and stop placing one race as lesser or superior to another.
Were the scots not slaves?Were the Russians not slaves under SerfdomWere the Ukranians slaves to the Bolsheviks?What about the whites who worked to death in the sugar mills of the Caribbean prior to the arrival of black slaves?What about the white children sold into being slaves in the work housesWhat about the hundreds of thousands of white slaves who died on the ships to America? (not voluntary workers, I am talking about those who had no choice).What about in England the 5 year old boys whipped and beaten, whose only purpose to clean the chimneys of their masters?
It's amazing mdogg how you can criticise me for my lack of understanding and yet be so utterly ignorant towards the magnitude of Irish slavery but also it's longevity.For this not to be well known is a betrayal of history.
Okay Fraxx, all slavery is horrific, but white children were sold into slavery, they were treated as sub human, the prisoners who were forced to go to the caribbean were treated as sub human, they were disenfranchised, just because the white so called intellectuals apologise for their suffering by using terms like "indentured servitude" does not escape this fact. The scots retained a history while being slaughtered and stripped of their land, just like the irish, many irish, english scots found themselves being work to death in the sugar mils. As far as the elite of the day were concerned these people were not worthy of respect, pity, they were scum who were there only to serve a purpose for their masters.Tell me why is it when a group of scumbags rule over a society that for them to view black's with disdain is worse than viewing white lower slass as scum? Let's not forget that the black slave trade would not have been possible without a co-ordinated and well organised slave trade in Africa which included the participaton of black's, the upper class black people. As far as I am concerned history has been skewered so much that it never addresses anything other than fragments which push an agenda.
All of my posts have broached the wider issue of slavery, not slavery confined to just one nation. To draw the obvious parallels between black slavery and white slavery. You see every time slavery is mentioned the average person pictures evil white men enslaving black people when the reality was both black and white and therefore it blows my mind that todays generation of black people should have such a chip on their shoulder about the actions of the white man. Hell, some black groups base their very ideolog/racial hatred on the white man enslaving you.
The problem with that is prior to the 1600's, slavery was a nationalism thing. British enslaved Scottish and Irish, Russians put themselves into serfdom, European nations enslaved their African colonies. This was NOT based off of racism, this was based off nationalism and it was based off conquering another people. In fact, when the US colonies set up it's laws in the 1660's-1690's, the British crown disagreed with what the people in the US colonies did. They did not want the people in the Americas defining what white was. To them it should stay British, not white. What these laws did in this country was tell you that one person was better than another because of skin color. NEVER before in history had this happen. NEVER. Never had a people said, we are white, you are black, therefore we are better than you. In terms of British and Irish, or British and Scottish, or rich and poor (especially rich and poor) then yes you saw enslavement. But never because of just color. Had the settlers just said before, are nation is just stronger than yours, that's why we took you, then when slavery ended, racism would have ended as well. It's what every single empire did before the US colonies, they just said our nation is stronger than yours, we won a war and now you are in debt to us. But instead slavery was based off racial superiority, and it was done to separate white and black servants who rebelled together. It was the first case of the Elite coming together and saying "we need to separate the servant population." Look up Bacon's Rebellion as to why the original elite class in the US would want to do this. The laws that followed Bacon's Rebellion would lay the foundation of racial superiority that until then was never seen. For the first time, instead of British the colony elite said "white" to separate themselves from the rest of the population. They freed the white servant population, gave them all a gun and welcomed them into their false sense of "whitehood." They then changed the laws saying that all servants were now slaves for life, and if you are the child of a slave you would be born into slavery. For the next 300 years, until the 1960's, laws to separate people based on race would be passed over and over again in this country. For 300 years, this land would be founded on the bases of racism and the legacy of racism. This is why black people complain. Because until 50 years ago, it was legally acceptable to racially discriminate against someone. Right now, still in Georgia, one school has segregated proms and the governor of the state supports that. We are just ONE generation removed from Jim Crow. Now black people are targeted as the labor behind the prison industrial complex. There is no question about it, it will take more than 50 years to heal from 300 years of slavery and racism. 50 years ago, think about how old your parents are. Think about how old your grandparents are. Think about the fact that only 20 years before your birth, it was legal to discriminate against someone, LEGAL.