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EMINEM - RELAPSE (Official Discussion)
Digital Pimpin':
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--- Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AM ---Mark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. 8)
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you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.
ask Matty
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Maybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.
Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it lol
R1ZE:
--- Quote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 11:04:10 PM ---
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--- Quote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 09:31:36 PM ---What's with everybody being a tuff critic? It's good music, it wasn't meant 2 be mind shattering or the soundtrack for world domination.
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people have diff tastes... for some people rapping about lindsey lohan and popping vicodins isnt what we wanna hear
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what people wonna hear? Nate Dogg singig abaut geting bitches and he can fuck hes own wife?? Or Hearing Kurupt or Knock rapping abaut gang bang and they never beat some one..what u wonna hear..?
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True shit.
Different taste is one thing but people take their opinions and themselves way too serious. I'd like to see someone on dubcc makes music better and not some FL Studio groove that's a variation of their favorite producers work.
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ugh, worst defense ever
if all critics had to be able to be better than what they're reviewing then there wouldnt be any.
eminems lyrics are fucking garbage.
Dre-Day:
--- Quote from: Matty on May 07, 2009, 07:20:46 PM ---'Deja Vu' is the best track on the album. one of the only tracks where the production and the delivery actually fit together and eminem isn't doing a stupid voice or a terrible hook.
the beats i like the most - 'Medicine Ball' and 'Must Be The Ganja' 'My Mom' and 'Hello'. i can think of artists who would do a much better job on these though. for example - 'Must Be The Ganja' would be the IDEAL beat for snoop or even knoc ;D
i got a feeling Dre-Day will be into 'Underground' for the big opera/orchestra dramatic tones.
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hell yeah, this shit is :o and Em's flow is :bomb: :rock:
this track is the highlight of the album.
i like Deja Vu too; did Dre flip the french sample?
--- Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:53:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 04:41:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AM ---Mark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. 8)
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you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.
ask Matty
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Maybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.
Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it lol
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i hope that this is a compliment, and not a diss :laugh: :'(
--- Quote from: dubsmith_nz on May 07, 2009, 11:28:10 PM --- Whos the cat who mixed all of Dre's beats?
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Dre's engineer
Okka:
Aye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?
Laconic:
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--- Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PM ---Not feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.
The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.
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like who?
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Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc.
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i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.
his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.
i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time :P
to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years now
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Khalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. :-[
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i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person :P
cause i can write pages about that too ;)
but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.
that's bias right there
How is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact.
--- Quote from: Okka on May 07, 2009, 03:21:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PM ---i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.
his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.
i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time :P
to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years now
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Well, Khalil has been workin with Dre for a long time, maybe he is responsible for some of the Dr. Dre "sounds" we all love. In 2003 Bad Azz said that Dr. Dre got this guy called Khalil ghostproducing for him.
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if anything, Khalil serves as an inspiration for Dre ( for Detox)
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