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EMINEM - RELAPSE (Official Discussion)
Jynxx:
underground is the best shit on this cd!!!
Dre-Day:
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--- Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PM ---Not feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.
The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.
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like who?
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Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc.
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i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.
his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.
i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time :P
to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years now
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Khalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. :-[
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i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person :P
cause i can write pages about that too ;)
but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.
that's bias right there
How is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact.
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it is bias because you take a subjective argument as a fact.
it is a fact that Dre doesn't do everything by himself, but that doesn't mean that he's not the locomotive.
you might as well discredit Paris & other producers that work similar as Dre
--- Quote from: Okka on May 08, 2009, 05:09:41 AM ---Aye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?
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it has a cool vibe, but it's a bit repetitive to me like 3am
Digital Pimpin':
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--- Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AM ---Mark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. 8)
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you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.
ask Matty
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Maybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.
Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it lol
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i hope that this is a compliment, and not a diss :laugh: :'(
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It's neither ;)
I know that if I analyse the beat too much I'll find something I don't like - and now I'll be bitching about the drums everytime I hear it...thanks :-\
Also the reason why I've not really been reading all the replies in this thread; I'm enjoying Relapse at the moment, ignorance is bliss ;D
Laconic:
--- Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 05:17:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on May 08, 2009, 05:11:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 02:41:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PM ---Not feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.
The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.
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like who?
--- End quote ---
Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc.
--- End quote ---
i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.
his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.
i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time :P
to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years now
--- End quote ---
Khalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. :-[
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i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person :P
cause i can write pages about that too ;)
but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.
that's bias right there
How is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact.
--- End quote ---
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it is bias because you take a subjective argument as a fact.
it is a fact that Dre doesn't do everything by himself, but that doesn't mean that he's not the locomotive.
you might as well discredit Paris & other producers that work similar as Dre
Paris doesn't have an entire squad of people around him. He writes, produces, arranges, performs and mixes almost everything he releases. He also does the photography, cover designs, layout and graphics. However, he has an engineer, Bruce, who also does some guitar work. That's one hell of a difference between the 2.
Locomotive? Is that why he never gets anywhere (aka releases anything?) I would say yes. If Dre wasn't such a perfectionist, a lovely euphemism BTW, then he would release something every year. These excuses need to kick rocks.
--- Quote from: Okka on May 08, 2009, 05:09:41 AM ---Aye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?
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it has a cool vibe, but it's a bit repetitive to me like 3am
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shoo:
mu opinion on the album - 7 dope songs, rest of it is garbage... i hate all the drama songs. And Beautiful is a fuckin garbage.
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