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Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AMMark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.ask Matty
Mark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer.
Quote from: Bosna Boi on May 07, 2009, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: R1ZE on May 07, 2009, 09:43:55 PMQuote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 09:31:36 PMWhat's with everybody being a tuff critic? It's good music, it wasn't meant 2 be mind shattering or the soundtrack for world domination.people have diff tastes... for some people rapping about lindsey lohan and popping vicodins isnt what we wanna hearwhat people wonna hear? Nate Dogg singig abaut geting bitches and he can fuck hes own wife?? Or Hearing Kurupt or Knock rapping abaut gang bang and they never beat some one..what u wonna hear..?True shit.Different taste is one thing but people take their opinions and themselves way too serious. I'd like to see someone on dubcc makes music better and not some FL Studio groove that's a variation of their favorite producers work.
Quote from: R1ZE on May 07, 2009, 09:43:55 PMQuote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 09:31:36 PMWhat's with everybody being a tuff critic? It's good music, it wasn't meant 2 be mind shattering or the soundtrack for world domination.people have diff tastes... for some people rapping about lindsey lohan and popping vicodins isnt what we wanna hearwhat people wonna hear? Nate Dogg singig abaut geting bitches and he can fuck hes own wife?? Or Hearing Kurupt or Knock rapping abaut gang bang and they never beat some one..what u wonna hear..?
Quote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 09:31:36 PMWhat's with everybody being a tuff critic? It's good music, it wasn't meant 2 be mind shattering or the soundtrack for world domination.people have diff tastes... for some people rapping about lindsey lohan and popping vicodins isnt what we wanna hear
What's with everybody being a tuff critic? It's good music, it wasn't meant 2 be mind shattering or the soundtrack for world domination.
'Deja Vu' is the best track on the album. one of the only tracks where the production and the delivery actually fit together and eminem isn't doing a stupid voice or a terrible hook.the beats i like the most - 'Medicine Ball' and 'Must Be The Ganja' 'My Mom' and 'Hello'. i can think of artists who would do a much better job on these though. for example - 'Must Be The Ganja' would be the IDEAL beat for snoop or even knoc i got a feeling Dre-Day will be into 'Underground' for the big opera/orchestra dramatic tones.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 04:41:11 AMQuote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AMMark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.ask MattyMaybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it lol
Whos the cat who mixed all of Dre's beats?
Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact. Quote from: Okka on May 07, 2009, 03:21:05 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMi can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowWell, Khalil has been workin with Dre for a long time, maybe he is responsible for some of the Dr. Dre "sounds" we all love. In 2003 Bad Azz said that Dr. Dre got this guy called Khalil ghostproducing for him. if anything, Khalil serves as an inspiration for Dre ( for Detox)
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity.
Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years now
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc.
Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?
Not feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMi can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowWell, Khalil has been workin with Dre for a long time, maybe he is responsible for some of the Dr. Dre "sounds" we all love. In 2003 Bad Azz said that Dr. Dre got this guy called Khalil ghostproducing for him.
i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years now
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 02:41:17 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact.
Quote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact.
Aye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?
Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:53:33 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 04:41:11 AMQuote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AMMark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.ask MattyMaybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it loli hope that this is a compliment, and not a diss
Quote from: Laconic on May 08, 2009, 05:11:01 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 02:41:17 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact. it is bias because you take a subjective argument as a fact.it is a fact that Dre doesn't do everything by himself, but that doesn't mean that he's not the locomotive.you might as well discredit Paris & other producers that work similar as DreParis doesn't have an entire squad of people around him. He writes, produces, arranges, performs and mixes almost everything he releases. He also does the photography, cover designs, layout and graphics. However, he has an engineer, Bruce, who also does some guitar work. That's one hell of a difference between the 2.Locomotive? Is that why he never gets anywhere (aka releases anything?) I would say yes. If Dre wasn't such a perfectionist, a lovely euphemism BTW, then he would release something every year. These excuses need to kick rocks.Quote from: Okka on May 08, 2009, 05:09:41 AMAye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?it has a cool vibe, but it's a bit repetitive to me like 3am
Quote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 11:04:10 PMQuote from: Bosna Boi on May 07, 2009, 10:54:04 PMQuote from: R1ZE on May 07, 2009, 09:43:55 PMQuote from: RadioTube! Da Don on May 07, 2009, 09:31:36 PMWhat's with everybody being a tuff critic? It's good music, it wasn't meant 2 be mind shattering or the soundtrack for world domination.people have diff tastes... for some people rapping about lindsey lohan and popping vicodins isnt what we wanna hearwhat people wonna hear? Nate Dogg singig abaut geting bitches and he can fuck hes own wife?? Or Hearing Kurupt or Knock rapping abaut gang bang and they never beat some one..what u wonna hear..?True shit.Different taste is one thing but people take their opinions and themselves way too serious. I'd like to see someone on dubcc makes music better and not some FL Studio groove that's a variation of their favorite producers work.ugh, worst defense everif all critics had to be able to be better than what they're reviewing then there wouldnt be any. eminems lyrics are fucking garbage.
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 05:07:37 AMQuote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:53:33 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 04:41:11 AMQuote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AMMark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.ask MattyMaybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it loli hope that this is a compliment, and not a diss It's neither I know that if I analyse the beat too much I'll find something I don't like - and now I'll be bitching about the drums everytime I hear it...thanks Also the reason why I've not really been reading all the replies in this thread; I'm enjoying Relapse at the moment, ignorance is bliss
Quote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 05:17:25 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 08, 2009, 05:11:01 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 02:41:17 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact. it is bias because you take a subjective argument as a fact.it is a fact that Dre doesn't do everything by himself, but that doesn't mean that he's not the locomotive.you might as well discredit Paris & other producers that work similar as DreQuote from: Okka on May 08, 2009, 05:09:41 AMAye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?it has a cool vibe, but it's a bit repetitive to me like 3amParis doesn't have an entire squad of people around him. He writes, produces, arranges, performs and mixes almost everything he releases. He also does the photography, cover designs, layout and graphics. However, he has an engineer, Bruce, who also does some guitar work. That's one hell of a difference between the 2.Locomotive? Is that why he never gets anywhere (aka releases anything?) I would say yes. If Dre wasn't such a perfectionist, a lovely euphemism BTW, then he would release something every year. These excuses need to kick rocks.
Quote from: Laconic on May 08, 2009, 05:11:01 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 02:41:17 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact. it is bias because you take a subjective argument as a fact.it is a fact that Dre doesn't do everything by himself, but that doesn't mean that he's not the locomotive.you might as well discredit Paris & other producers that work similar as DreQuote from: Okka on May 08, 2009, 05:09:41 AMAye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?it has a cool vibe, but it's a bit repetitive to me like 3am
Quote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 05:18:10 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 05:07:37 AMQuote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:53:33 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 04:41:11 AMQuote from: Digital Pimpin' on May 08, 2009, 04:37:58 AMMark Batson co-produced "Goriila Pimpin 5008" off Bishop's Confessional with Che Vicious...that was one of my favourite tracks last summer. you've got to admit that the drumsounds were cheap as hell.ask MattyMaybe they were, but it bangs on my big speakers so I haven't bothered to dissect and critique the beat.Of course, now you've mentioned this I'll be checking for cheap drum sounds every time I listen to it loli hope that this is a compliment, and not a diss It's neither I know that if I analyse the beat too much I'll find something I don't like - and now I'll be bitching about the drums everytime I hear it...thanks Also the reason why I've not really been reading all the replies in this thread; I'm enjoying Relapse at the moment, ignorance is bliss you know you can be a critic & still enjoy a track.Quote from: Laconic on May 08, 2009, 05:30:51 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 05:17:25 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 08, 2009, 05:11:01 AMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 08, 2009, 02:41:17 AMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 03:10:24 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 03:00:26 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:54:43 PMQuote from: From Dre-Day to Helter Skelter on May 07, 2009, 02:47:22 PMQuote from: Laconic on May 07, 2009, 02:35:58 PMNot feeling Em's subject matter at all regardless of the "concept." However, his flow is crazy and you can definitely tell he's been hittin the treadmill with that type of breath control.The beats are pretty good for the most part. Still don't completely understand the Dre dickriding though. There are better producers out there who don't take years to release product.like who?Kno of Cunninlynguists, Ant from Atmosphere, Sabzi from Blue Scholars/Common Market, Dj Khalil, etc. i can't speak on most of them, but DJ Khalil? lol.his sound is sometimes experimental, but that doesn't necessarily make the final product better.i find it funny that you mention him though, cause he imitates Dre from time to time to me there's no one as consistent as Dre: he's been dropping quality for several years nowKhalil does Dre beats better than Dre does them IMO. And apparently he's not afraid to actually release product to be dissected. Don't get me wrong, it's great that Dre did all of Em's new record minus the 1 but we're talking 10 years now since he's done that. And again, he needs others to make his shit as hot as it is. Just like his lyrics, almost everything is co-written/produced. I personally feel like it's a kick in the balls to Rakim, Joell Ortiz, Bishop and many others, including and, especially the fans, out there who could be doing some thing AMAZING with the production that is supplied. This shit kills me. At the end of the day like so many others, DRE is concerned with making money instead of integrity. i thought we were discussing Dre's work, not the actual person cause i can write pages about that too but the statement that Dre needs other people to make his stuff hot is just bullshit.that's bias right thereHow is that bias? Dre has a whole team with him almost every time he drops something. Co-producers, key players, guitar players, mixers, engineers and so forth. That's a fact. it is bias because you take a subjective argument as a fact.it is a fact that Dre doesn't do everything by himself, but that doesn't mean that he's not the locomotive.you might as well discredit Paris & other producers that work similar as DreQuote from: Okka on May 08, 2009, 05:09:41 AMAye yo Dre-Day, what you think about the beat on "Stay Wide Awake" ?it has a cool vibe, but it's a bit repetitive to me like 3amParis doesn't have an entire squad of people around him. He writes, produces, arranges, performs and mixes almost everything he releases. He also does the photography, cover designs, layout and graphics. However, he has an engineer, Bruce, who also does some guitar work. That's one hell of a difference between the 2.Locomotive? Is that why he never gets anywhere (aka releases anything?) I would say yes. If Dre wasn't such a perfectionist, a lovely euphemism BTW, then he would release something every year. These excuses need to kick rocks.stop looking so deep into the example; you were discrediting Dr.Dre for the fact that he doesn't do everything by himself.i used Paris as an example, just to point out that there's nothing wrong with not doing everything by yourself.also, lol at the sarcasm. why are switching the subject & taking my word out of context?by the way, there's no point in trying to save your face in this conversation.this isn't about who's right or wrong.but i would appreciate it if you just admitted that you're biased about Dr.Drehe may be overrated, but that's another story.