Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?

[Dre-Day]

sam sneed made "natural born killers"

Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".

Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.

J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing

he has no credibility

[ABN]

sam sneed made "natural born killers"

Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".

Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.

J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing

he has no credibility

no one that´s claimed that they´ve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesn´t take credit for other´s work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. it´s the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did he´d never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.

[Dre-Day]

sam sneed made "natural born killers"

Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".

Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.

J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing

he has no credibility

no one thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesnīt take credit for otherīs work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. itīs the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did heīd never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.

that's right 

[ABN]

and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.

[Okka]

no one thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesnīt take credit for otherīs work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. itīs the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did heīd never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.

No one has any real credibility? Scott Storch said he produced "Still D.R.E" and Dre did the drums. So many people has said that Dre takes credit when he should not, it's kind of hard not to believe that's it true and even Snoop Dogg said that Dre "produces" (that doesn't mean he makes the beat)

[Dre-Day]

and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.

that's right, i'm glad you know the truth 

there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about

[Okka]

and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.

that's right, i'm glad you know the truth 

there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about

Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years

[ABN]

and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.

that's right, i'm glad you know the truth 

there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about

Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years

but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when  youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss. and if Dre really stole shit iīm sure Mel-Man wouldīve said something about it.

[Okka]

but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when  youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss.

People who work with Dre have to sign a contract and it's about not talkin about the projects they workin on.

Scott Storch said a few times that he really produced "Still D.R.E." and Dre only did the drums, there's was even a article about it (can't remember it it was in The Source or not)

So Cold 187Um doesn't have talent? Dre blackballed him so that he can't even get a fuckin record deal (well, that's what Hutch said).

And about "being big" without Dre, Scott Storch is pretty big, was and still is even though he's had some problems.

Why doesn't Mike Elizondo work with Dr. Dre anymore?

[Dre-Day]

and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.

that's right, i'm glad you know the truth 

there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about

Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years

lol at the sarcasm, i never claimed that.

i just don't believe in assumptions like you do

[Okka]

and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.

that's right, i'm glad you know the truth 

there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about

Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years

lol at the sarcasm, i never claimed that.

i just don't believe in assumptions like you do

Well, it just seems kinda odd that so many people are sayin the same shit about Dre. I ain't takin credit from him though, i consider him the best producer ever.

BUT, the main thing is that producin' don't mean makin' beats (i always though it did) and i always thought Dr. Dre is the best beat maker, but i guess things just ain't like that.

[MarshColin]

sam sneed made "natural born killers"

Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".

Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.

J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing

he has no credibility

J-Flexx claimed to have wrote those songs, not produce them. And I don't think there was any dispute over that ever. I also don't think there was any dispute over the fact that Sneed produced both of those songs either.

And when it comes to the stealing credit shit, it's been discussed many times. If you know the real definition of a producer, that is what Dre is. All these people that claim to "ghost-produce" are basically just good BEATMAKERS, not producers.

[OG Hack Wilson]

What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.

Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.

poor guy

[OG Hack Wilson]

sam sneed made "natural born killers"

Also had a big part in "Keep Their Headz Ringin' ".

Well, J.Flexx claimed he did both. I'd like to know the truth.

J.Flexx also claimed that Dre screwed him over royalties, yet it was Suge publishing

he has no credibility

J-Flexx claimed to have wrote those songs, not produce them. And I don't think there was any dispute over that ever. I also don't think there was any dispute over the fact that Sneed produced both of those songs either.

And when it comes to the stealing credit shit, it's been discussed many times. If you know the real definition of a producer, that is what Dre is. All these people that claim to "ghost-produce" are basically just good BEATMAKERS, not producers.

EXACTLY...someone may do the drums and the sampling but Dre was the one to put the whole thing together at the end

i'm not a big "audio nerd" myself but the college i just graduated from has an audio department and I spent time in the studio....even got to produce a track lol

[Okka]

What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.

Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.

Hell yeah, he produced "U Betta Recognize", "Blueberries" (Sam Sneed/Snoop Dogg) and "Blueberry" from "Tha Doggfather", all were dope as fuck.