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Any of ya'll ready to retract your ridiculous "LeBron>Kobe" claims yet?

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herpes:

--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 06, 2009, 10:22:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: PLANT on June 06, 2009, 10:05:56 AM ---Terrible choice for a moderator

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thats obvious

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This place needs a mod that follows more than just the Lakers.

.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:

--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on June 06, 2009, 10:46:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 06, 2009, 10:22:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: PLANT on June 06, 2009, 10:05:56 AM ---Terrible choice for a moderator

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thats obvious

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This place needs a mod that follows more than just the Lakers.

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at least a COUPLE other sports...and other teams within the ONE sport he follows.  Not to mention, most of the bullshit threads and posts that people complain about in here, come from the Mod lol

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

--- Quote from: Shallow on June 06, 2009, 06:18:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 05:26:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 05:11:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 02:37:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 12:57:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM ---^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. :-\

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but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.

you love Kobe; love = emotion.

your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.



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lol NIK cant see it, because he's in love. So he doesnt realize how ridiculous he looks to everyone else.  He thinks all these Laker fans (mostly cheerleaders) agree with him, when in reality more of the time they dont. They just dont speak up.  A lot of them might think Kobe is better then LeBron, and thats fine. Thats their opinion.  But they dont agree with him when he makes idiotic comments about players like Kwame Brown bein the next great thing, or Farmar, or Sasha, or Bynum > Howard lol.  What NIK has done over the years, is say the Lakers are the best ALL the time. So that during that one instance (maybe this year) when they are...he can say "i told you so". Completely ignoring the fact that it has been YEARS since anyone could say that.

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Kobe is by far the best player on the planet and there's nothing ridiculous about that claim. there is, however, something very ridiculous about the overpraise LeBron has received this whole season.
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The reason people think youre a joke on this forum, is because of this kind of shit lol A huge portion of the basketball world (analysts, media, fans, etc.) say LeBron is the best right now.  I think basketball is complex enough that you cant have "one" best player. Only with MJ was there a clear cut "best".  There hasnt been since him, and there wasnt before him.  There have been groups of players that were the best at different times. But to claim that saying LeBron is the best is ridiculous...when SOOOO many others say he is, only makes your "Kobe is the best" claim look that much more silly.

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notice how you say "people think" because you wanna feel supported in your arguments against...lol. just speak for yourself, son. Magic was the best of his time, Jordan was the best of his, and Kobe is the best now. Kobe=clear cut best. even the LeBron dickriders are starting to see it again. get with the program.

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What he's saying is that with Jordan there was no argument. During the entire 80s it was "Magic or Larry?" and whether you personally think Larry wasn't at the same level (an opinion that would flip flop completely if Larry was the Laker in the argument) isn't the issue. The issue is there was an argument. What was the argument in the 90s? When you say best NBA player of the 90s will any NBA analyst, hardcore fan, player, coach, etc say anyone other than Jordan? The answer is no. In the 80s maybe 95% would say either Magic or Larry with the other 5% maybe saying someone else. Since Jordan if you ask who has been the most valuable player in the league no where near 100% of the people will say Kobe. Shaq would get most of the votes, and then Kobe and Duncan would be debated (yeah big men and guards are different but no one argues "Larry, Magic, or Jabbar?". Best is best and best means most likely to make your team a winner). And today right now, the fact that they even debate LeBron vs Kobe. The fact that you even take time out to debate it. Proves with out any doubt that Kobe is not ahead of the pack the way Jordan in the 90s was.

Would a Jordan fan even enter a thread "Jordan vs Barkley" or "Jordan vs Hakeem"? The answer is no. Unless you're just a complete twit. If there was a thread tomorrow about "Who is the greatest Miami Dolphins QB of all time?" all you would see would be two or three posts that say Dan Marino and then the thread would fade away. Because if someone was stupid enough to mention Griese or Morall, a response to those ridiculous claims wouldn't be warranted and the thread would fade away.

So just accept it; Kobe will never be seen like Jordan was in the 90s.

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Kobe might never be seen that way to the general public, but it doesn't mean that he's not as talented a player and still has a high chance at achieving as much, if not more than Jordan did...the fact that there weren't as many premier perimeter players in Jordan's era shouldn't be a knock on Kobe. I mean, who did Joran really go up against? Dominique Wilkins? Clyde Drexler? Wilkins is to Jordan as LeBron is to Kobe. LeBron is really no where near Kobe. He's more comparable to the likes of Wade, Melo, T-Mac in his prime etc...Kobe is ALREADY in the upper echelon with Magic, Jordan, Bird, etc. and the fact that he's not as celebrated or marketed as Jordan was does not change that fact...PeACe

S P I C E:
^^Who did Jordan go against!?!?!?!  How about Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, etc.  LOL cmon NIK

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

--- Quote from: Denny Crane on June 06, 2009, 05:16:19 PM ---^^Who did Jordan go against!?!?!?!  How about Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, etc.  LOL cmon NIK

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I'm talking about perimeter players, man...LOL. come on. Reggie Miller is good, but just like he couldn't fuck with MJ, he couldn't fuck with Kobe either. you didn't make any valid points, dawg...PeACe

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