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Quote from: acgrundy on June 15, 2009, 10:40:17 PMI think sales are going to go horrible worse than wide awake expects. With the way the economy is, seriously how many sales do they expect, of a re-release of a 15 year old cd? Add to it, there is damn near zero promotion. I mean, how many death row fans are going to buy this? I know that a majority of hardcore DR fans are borderline psycho and willing to pay like $200 for a cd...but other than that handful, how many people are willing to shell out $15 for a cd that you already own? Especially when you know that you can just download the new songs that leak.I want this dr music to come out...but as far as a business move...other than getting the royalty checks, I don't see how they are going to really be making much money off of this deal. And I hope that they don't have these super high expectations, only to become discouraged, and stop after 2 or 3 releases. I think you underestimate it. What promotion does it really need? You think people don't buy re-releases of "Thriller" and all them old Beattles album twenty years later? It's not like they are looking for some first-week platinum kind of sales. They aren't going to be losing any money on this, trust me. There's always money in updating classic catalog titles. Re-releases especially with bonus content always sell. When you have albums like these (Chronic, Doggystyle, All Eyez), they are constantly mentioned in magazines, MTV, etc. When a new hip-hop list drops and they are on it, this is gonna spark renewed interest somewhere. There's a reason why these albums have been re-released about three times before and we had two different "15 Years Of Death Row" within a couple months of each other despite a previous "Best Of" being released only a year before that with nearly the same songs. There's a reason why Bad Boy put out a remastered "Ready To Die" with new songs and was still able to release a "Greatest Hits" with Biggie after that and a soundtrack with a lot of the same songs. This music will always be profitable. If I own the Death Row library and my call is between re-releasing the classic catalog and putting out new artist shit, from a business view, it's the biggest fucking no-brainer in the world. Same as people are still buying Motown songs, people will continue to buy Dr. Dre and Tupac CD's.
I think sales are going to go horrible worse than wide awake expects. With the way the economy is, seriously how many sales do they expect, of a re-release of a 15 year old cd? Add to it, there is damn near zero promotion. I mean, how many death row fans are going to buy this? I know that a majority of hardcore DR fans are borderline psycho and willing to pay like $200 for a cd...but other than that handful, how many people are willing to shell out $15 for a cd that you already own? Especially when you know that you can just download the new songs that leak.I want this dr music to come out...but as far as a business move...other than getting the royalty checks, I don't see how they are going to really be making much money off of this deal. And I hope that they don't have these super high expectations, only to become discouraged, and stop after 2 or 3 releases.
You are talking about a different time era and a different age group of people. Most people who want this album, and some how don't have it, will download it. When thriller and beatles albums were released in the past, downloading wasn't as accessible, and it was a different age group of people. This will not sell a lot of copies, I guarantee it.
Quote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 11:08:52 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 08:14:06 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.if they offered you a job would you take it?Maybe. Depends on what job they offered me.
Quote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 08:14:06 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.if they offered you a job would you take it?
Quote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.
Quote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with?
Quote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though.
Quote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.
Quote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lol
sounds kinda geeky.
Quote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 01:16:24 PMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 11:08:52 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 08:14:06 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.if they offered you a job would you take it?Maybe. Depends on what job they offered me. say they let you pick the bonus tracks from the vaults.
Quote from: Big B on June 18, 2009, 06:52:17 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 01:16:24 PMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 11:08:52 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 08:14:06 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.if they offered you a job would you take it?Maybe. Depends on what job they offered me. say they let you pick the bonus tracks from the vaults.lol...Yeah. If that was an actual job and I could make a living doing it, I'm sure I'd do it.
Quote from: JohnnyL on June 18, 2009, 07:14:47 AMQuote from: Big B on June 18, 2009, 06:52:17 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 01:16:24 PMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 11:08:52 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 08:14:06 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.if they offered you a job would you take it?Maybe. Depends on what job they offered me. say they let you pick the bonus tracks from the vaults.lol...Yeah. If that was an actual job and I could make a living doing it, I'm sure I'd do it.what if it was a full time job that paid $5.50/hour?
Quote from: Big B on June 18, 2009, 07:29:56 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 18, 2009, 07:14:47 AMQuote from: Big B on June 18, 2009, 06:52:17 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 01:16:24 PMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 11:08:52 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 08:14:06 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:55:30 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:53:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:43:22 AMQuote from: JohnnyL on June 15, 2009, 07:24:21 AMQuote from: Big B on June 15, 2009, 07:23:36 AMsounds kinda geeky.lolyou gotta admit, it sounds really geeky. it might be something that chad vader would buy.Well, I admit I don't know how much the casual fan will be into it. I find it curious that they would start off their releases with yet another re-release. I'm sure the completists like myself will be happy though. what would you suggest they start off with? Well, that's a tough one. Maybe they think by starting off with an album like "The Chronic," they're playing it safe since it's an already-established hit record from a famousartist. You can't hardly argue that, but at the same time, there are going to be a lot of people who already own "The Chronic," and therefore won't re-buy it no matter how nicely they dress it up. Personally, I think I would have tried to put out a full unreleased album first. N.I.N.A. might have been a good choice since Left Eye was an already established star, if the album hadn't leaked already. Crooked I's "Untouchable" album could probably have been a successful first release. But, a lot of this would also depend on how well the label promotes the material. So far, they have only posted a website with very little content. I think whichever artist they choose to put out (first, or even for future releases), they need to have a website where they can post at least one single for each album, before it comes out. Plus provide a forum where the fans can post, so they have a better idea of which albums the fans want most. Laura Lavi and John Payne should probably also continue to do interviews, also to help keep people informed of when the albums will be available.if they offered you a job would you take it?Maybe. Depends on what job they offered me. say they let you pick the bonus tracks from the vaults.lol...Yeah. If that was an actual job and I could make a living doing it, I'm sure I'd do it.what if it was a full time job that paid $5.50/hour?Do I get health insurance? And if so, what about dental and vision?
Quote from: Mygla on June 15, 2009, 03:35:09 PMIMO iTunes/paid download is the only way they can go if they're out to make a profit of it. 2pac, Snoop & Dre are the only Death Row-names that could guarantee decent sales, every single other artist ever signed to the label is basically without mainstream value today, so paid downloads would defo minimize the costs of releasing the material, and maybe they could supplement with compilations...putting out a CD > paid downloads
IMO iTunes/paid download is the only way they can go if they're out to make a profit of it. 2pac, Snoop & Dre are the only Death Row-names that could guarantee decent sales, every single other artist ever signed to the label is basically without mainstream value today, so paid downloads would defo minimize the costs of releasing the material, and maybe they could supplement with compilations...
sooo...this is gonna be a re release of the chronic with original tracks? the remnants of death row are doing this?any one care to let me know where this announcement came from?-T
what is record store day?is it like free comic book day?hm, i got a remastered the chronic in like 03 or some shit...it had videos and shit on it...how is this different?-T