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Illogic is just pretending to be smart by use big words and stupid analogies
This one is relatively short; I won't say much about itWhat's the point if you're still gon' doubtHistory is a weapon being used against usHumanity has been abused before but few rememberHuman hybrid, Hubble iris, double-sided untouchableWhen it comes to rhyming, but I struggle in private"One Ought Not To Think", in other words stop thinkingHumankind is now on the brink of extinctionThe Eagle has landed, one of von BraunHandpicked the evil bastard called "Magnum Innominandum"These ice-age quotes opposed HeliosConfusing the most yet I find it remedialTurn the radio and TV off, think for a secondTechnology is a blessing but it's also a weaponA weapon of mass destruction giving global instructionsTeaching us how to hate but does it in a way that we love itTake my beloved rap music, erase the beatConsumers act like they're afraid of intelligent speechThe rhymes are imagined in theoryThen itemized into a queryIt takes more than your ears to hear meMeditate; you will see it clearlyElevate to a level where your judgment isn't impaired dailyBefore the New World Order right around the cornerOne day soon they gone lock down the bordersI ain't a activist, I can't do shitI'd rather be a pacifist with a full clipKeep saying your prayers, they won't careGod won't hear, do something, you won't dareIt's happened before, it'll happen againIt's happening over there; it'll spread here my friend"One Ought Not To Think", in other words stop thinkingMankind is now on the brink of extinctionLost wisdom from the lost kingdomHumankind is now on the brink of extinction
Now you're limiting to rap to egotistical boasting! I see! Because, you know, that's all rappers spit about is themselves, right? They don't contain a diversity of topics that reflects their socio-economic reality or discuss emporerment of self or education or growth or revolution or hatred. It's all EGOTISTICAL BOASTING. I'm convinced now you know nothing about hip-hop or rap.
Quote from: Action! on June 11, 2009, 08:01:24 AMNow you're limiting to rap to egotistical boasting! I see! Because, you know, that's all rappers spit about is themselves, right? They don't contain a diversity of topics that reflects their socio-economic reality or discuss empowerment of self or education or growth or revolution or hatred. It's all EGOTISTICAL BOASTING. I'm convinced now you know nothing about hip-hop or rap.My remark was as close minded as yours, on purpose. I guess the fact that I structured exaclty like yours went over your head.But now you got me going. Expect a few essays from me coming up on why Won't Get Fooled Again is a better song that Illogic's. I think before I speak and when I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it, but when I say the top rap lyricists can't compare to the top rock ones, as I've said a few times, that just doesn't come out of thin air or close mindedness. It comes from years of loving, studying, and researching hip hop. And then growing up and realizing it was never as good as I thought it was.
Now you're limiting to rap to egotistical boasting! I see! Because, you know, that's all rappers spit about is themselves, right? They don't contain a diversity of topics that reflects their socio-economic reality or discuss empowerment of self or education or growth or revolution or hatred. It's all EGOTISTICAL BOASTING. I'm convinced now you know nothing about hip-hop or rap.
Quote from: Shallow on June 11, 2009, 03:29:18 PMQuote from: Action! on June 11, 2009, 08:01:24 AMNow you're limiting to rap to egotistical boasting! I see! Because, you know, that's all rappers spit about is themselves, right? They don't contain a diversity of topics that reflects their socio-economic reality or discuss empowerment of self or education or growth or revolution or hatred. It's all EGOTISTICAL BOASTING. I'm convinced now you know nothing about hip-hop or rap.My remark was as close minded as yours, on purpose. I guess the fact that I structured exaclty like yours went over your head.But now you got me going. Expect a few essays from me coming up on why Won't Get Fooled Again is a better song that Illogic's. I think before I speak and when I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it, but when I say the top rap lyricists can't compare to the top rock ones, as I've said a few times, that just doesn't come out of thin air or close mindedness. It comes from years of loving, studying, and researching hip hop. And then growing up and realizing it was never as good as I thought it was.There was nothing close minded about my original remark. You can not deny that hip-hop touches on a diversity of topics. That's not opinion, it's a fucking fact. You on the other hand have an opinion about the lyrics of Townsend and how the greatest rockers are all superior than that of rappers. Well, you could deny that rappers don't touch a diversity of topics and is simply egotistical boasting but you'd be wrong. Your opinion on rappers is wrong and the facts back up my judgment. Get over yourself.
rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives. only a fool would dismiss hip-hop as having no substance. one who does never enjoyed hip-hop in the first place
timeless and beautiful. Townsend very cleverly describes revolution
You're right, except you didn't rap touches on a diversity of topic you said "rap captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives". What the fuck does that even mean anyway? Show me any form of art and I'll find someone that says it captures the essence of the human spirit from a multitude of perspectives. It's such a stupid and pretentious thing to say and no less opinion than saying Won't Get Fooled Again is beautiful and timeless. You can apply those lyrics to so many revolutions and political movements throughout history and that is a fact. And you can find millions of people that are moved and touched by reading those words and that makes them beautiful.
"If a picture's worth a thousand words I'll paint a thousand pictures". Another stupid pretentious thing to say, but it does touch on something very important. Something that has plagued rap lyricism since day one. TOO MANY FUCKING WORDS. Rappers can't just maje it obvious what they are trying to say. They have to cement it over and over again. Ok, we fucking get it. Stop telling us again and again. Fucking Nas thinks we're so stupid in his song obviously from the point of view of a gun he has to say in the lyrics "I'm a Gun". Tell that isn't fucking stupid. And that's one of the highlight songs of one of raps best lyricists.
Capturing the essence of the human sprit is no way the same thing as touching on various subject diversely. How the fuck can argue that? Getting inside the soul of someone and translating that through art is the same as creating art about a bunch of different subjects. I can draw stick figures portraying a man, a rhino, and space ship, etc and call that touvhing on various subjects. I wouldn't call it capturing the essence of shit. How the fuck old are you clowns? Am I talking to the same poster with two different aliases?
This rap song by Illogic has the lyrical quality of an old Ultimte Warrior promo. He's just over complicating and very simple, old, and boring concept of rap; "You're a sellout. I'm not"
What the fuck is golden oxygen? And what does it have to do with ascending to heaven on pegs after walking though a mine field? The all of a sudden he's in the seven sees but ends up in outer space where the 8 planets are being sucked into a worm hole. And What the fuck does formaldehyde have to do with pride?
This guy rips Illogic to pieces lyrically, by your standards
I never compared The Who to PE and I never said Townsend was a better lyricist than Chuck D. Chuck D is one of rock's elite lyricist, and yes he counts as rock because he said so.
I could apply this song to Bush and Obama. Nixon and Carter. Batista and Castro. God and Lucifer.
"The barrels of hell understand the logic of death/and ferals undwell to uncover their breasts"