Author Topic: Hold Ya Head  (Read 621 times)

Blasphemy

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 08:03:47 AM »
Figures 1 fucking comment sparks a entire "war" lol Let me say this....."East"..... lol Honestly I Don't bang Biggie.Just doesn't appeal to me, but I'm not some retard who can't show his respect. He's got flow, and lyrical Ability. Tupac had Emotion, and was spreading him self to a lot of topic. From Gangsta Shit (All Eyez) to Street problems (basically of his albums lol) to emotional and personal (MATW) and to something deeper and bigger beyond the ghetto (Makaveli). He also had a intense work ethic (the fact he has over 9 albums worth of material says a lot).Do I think he's a great? Yeah. Highest selling artist in the world, did amazing stuff beyond the mic when it came to helping people. The fact some of his songs can really make you think. Does that mean biggie = shit??? No. Biggie was late in the game, had a different work ethic/process, and was taken out to early.Same with Tupac. They both got taken out at the top of their games.So they never faded, which is why they will always remain greats. Because we never got to see them fade, or change their style or ever see whats happening to every other artist happen to them.Their deaths, is what solidified their carriers.
 

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 01:35:59 PM »
I watched tht movie notorious n the way they potrayd Pac was jus bad. Was he tht crazy? They puttin the blame on him tht is biggie's death. And to tht hater who thinks biggie is the greatest rapper EaT a fat dick n bump mase to ur grave. Don't change the subject. We talkin one of Pac's greatest songs, u couldn't even write a better lyric even if ur life depended on it.
 

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 03:08:06 PM »
And to tht hater who thinks biggie is the greatest rapper EaT a fat dick n bump mase to ur grave. Don't change the subject. We talkin one of Pac's greatest songs, u couldn't even write a better lyric even if ur life depended on it.

Proves my point exactly.
 

OG Hack Wilson

Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 03:47:06 PM »
Biggie>Pac


lets not get crazy here my friend


Biggie had better word play and rhymed words better, but his work ethic was pathetic (the nigga once walked out of a studio when Stretch and Pac were recording Who Do U Luv because he couldn't write something to fit the beat!!) and his style was all the same



Pac could rap about any subject and sound fresh, and dude was a music making machine

Biggie had better lyrics and he had better flow, and I'm already regretting having to come out and say this shit. I don't care about whatever kind of slant on it people here want to come up with, because lyrics and delivery are all that really matter when it comes to real hip hop. I love Pac but I'm honestly getting sick of mainstream rap fans talking about him like he's some kind of messiah and hating on Biggie for no reason even though Biggie is probably the best rapper of all time. You guys really need to wake up and get a life. The people here who listen to hip hop objectively can at least have a proper discussion about Pac without sucking his dick, but unfortunately 80% spend their lives hanging on the edge of every lyric 2Pac ever spoke. 2Pac isn't Jesus and he isn't going to absolve your sins. Get a job or something.


i love Biggie man, shut the fuck up.

Biggie's the best rapper of all time?? are you smoking crack?  Big L, Kool G Rap, Rakim, Big Pun, The GZA, Nas are all better emcees FROM HIS SAME CITY

and I may even put Big Daddy Kane and KRS ahead of him, but I won't.  Oh, and Redman...he's from jersey but I'd still prefer his body of music to Biggie's.  peak quality they're all great but Biggie provides a horrible catalogue.

you probably just watched the Notorious movie and came on here posting.



oh btw i have a job, thanks for being concerned with my personal life though :)
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V2DHeart

Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2009, 08:55:58 PM »
Figures 1 fucking comment sparks a entire "war" lol Let me say this....."East"..... lol Honestly I Don't bang Biggie.Just doesn't appeal to me, but I'm not some retard who can't show his respect. He's got flow, and lyrical Ability. Tupac had Emotion, and was spreading him self to a lot of topic. From Gangsta Shit (All Eyez) to Street problems (basically of his albums lol) to emotional and personal (MATW) and to something deeper and bigger beyond the ghetto (Makaveli). He also had a intense work ethic (the fact he has over 9 albums worth of material says a lot).Do I think he's a great? Yeah. Highest selling artist in the world, did amazing stuff beyond the mic when it came to helping people. The fact some of his songs can really make you think. Does that mean biggie = shit??? No. Biggie was late in the game, had a different work ethic/process, and was taken out to early.Same with Tupac. They both got taken out at the top of their games.So they never faded, which is why they will always remain greats. Because we never got to see them fade, or change their style or ever see whats happening to every other artist happen to them.Their deaths, is what solidified their carriers.

Eminem is now the highest selling hip hop artist of all time
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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2009, 08:58:33 PM »
Figures 1 fucking comment sparks a entire "war" lol Let me say this....."East"..... lol Honestly I Don't bang Biggie.Just doesn't appeal to me, but I'm not some retard who can't show his respect. He's got flow, and lyrical Ability. Tupac had Emotion, and was spreading him self to a lot of topic. From Gangsta Shit (All Eyez) to Street problems (basically of his albums lol) to emotional and personal (MATW) and to something deeper and bigger beyond the ghetto (Makaveli). He also had a intense work ethic (the fact he has over 9 albums worth of material says a lot).Do I think he's a great? Yeah. Highest selling artist in the world, did amazing stuff beyond the mic when it came to helping people. The fact some of his songs can really make you think. Does that mean biggie = shit??? No. Biggie was late in the game, had a different work ethic/process, and was taken out to early.Same with Tupac. They both got taken out at the top of their games.So they never faded, which is why they will always remain greats. Because we never got to see them fade, or change their style or ever see whats happening to every other artist happen to them.Their deaths, is what solidified their carriers.

Eminem is now the highest selling hip hop artist of all time

only because death row stopped paying the RIAA to keep track of the record sales of ALL EYEZ ON ME and MAKAVELI :( :(  :(
 

V2DHeart

Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2009, 09:57:40 PM »
That should have been Interscopes job. They can try to re-certify 2Pacs back catalouge again, but with the 2Pac being the highest selling Hip Hop artist ever statement being based on figures that wern't necessarily printed and authenticated fact from sources such as RIAA makes it difficult to be accurate. It's said he sold over 70 million albums worldwide. Eminem over 75 Million? Could be BS, but I've seen 2 places that confirm this. One is not trustworthy though

But a lot of people that over-hype 2Pac get all emotional over it. I don't see the problem, at the end of the day, if his highest selling title is beaten, then so be it. I'm surprised he was the highest selling for so long considering the fact he's dead, and has been for well over ten years now. Even if iconic figures like Elvis Pressley were to have albums released today, they wouldn't sell past 1/x2 platinum, simply for the fact that the artists aren't here to promote the work themselves. Unless it's a genuine greatest hits album with promotion, or a wheem of material at the one time, it has no chance in selling big numbers.

Jay Z wasn't that far behind either
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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2009, 10:58:46 PM »
"Hold Ya Head" is powerful.

"switch my name to Makaveli, half the rap game froze...."
 

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2009, 11:48:20 PM »
I agree, a great track! I'm sure pac would of sold more copies if they weren't all remix albums! I was never a huge BIG fan but I got his albums they still get regular rotation. If they re-released "Still I Rise" "UTEOT" "Better days" "LTTG" & "Pacs Life" all tracks in there OG format I'm sure each album would go platinum again!!



Peace
She started letting me and my boys hit together
Me and Pac hit the slot now it's out in the open
Didn't take long, to make her get it on, came on strong
And Thugs Get Lonely Too was our slogan - "TECH N9NE"
 

Rick McCrank

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2009, 11:55:57 PM »
My fave 2pac album is AEOM

can't believe some people have the gall to say it's wack
 

Mietek23

Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2009, 05:40:01 AM »
"Hold Ya Head" and "Blasphemy" were amazing! Very deep album definitely my favorite Pac album.

2 of the best songs from the dopest rap album of all time...
 

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2009, 06:35:33 AM »
I agree, a great track! I'm sure pac would of sold more copies if they weren't all remix albums! I was never a huge BIG fan but I got his albums they still get regular rotation. If they re-released "Still I Rise" "UTEOT" "Better days" "LTTG" & "Pacs Life" all tracks in there OG format I'm sure each album would go platinum again!!



Peace


Pac's Life is yet to go platinum ;)


and thank god, because that should show Afeni how fucked up the remixing has gotten


it's worse and worse each album  (well Better dayz may have been a little better than UTEOT)
 

OG Hack Wilson

Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2009, 06:36:22 AM »
I agree, a great track! I'm sure pac would of sold more copies if they weren't all remix albums! I was never a huge BIG fan but I got his albums they still get regular rotation. If they re-released "Still I Rise" "UTEOT" "Better days" "LTTG" & "Pacs Life" all tracks in there OG format I'm sure each album would go platinum again!!



Peace


Pac's Life is yet to go platinum ;)


and thank god, because that should show Afeni how fucked up the remixing has gotten


it's worse and worse each album  (well Better dayz may have been a little better than UTEOT)
 

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2009, 07:16:03 AM »
Biggie>Pac


lets not get crazy here my friend


Biggie had better word play and rhymed words better, but his work ethic was pathetic (the nigga once walked out of a studio when Stretch and Pac were recording Who Do U Luv because he couldn't write something to fit the beat!!) and his style was all the same



Pac could rap about any subject and sound fresh, and dude was a music making machine

Biggie had better lyrics and he had better flow, and I'm already regretting having to come out and say this shit. I don't care about whatever kind of slant on it people here want to come up with, because lyrics and delivery are all that really matter when it comes to real hip hop. I love Pac but I'm honestly getting sick of mainstream rap fans talking about him like he's some kind of messiah and hating on Biggie for no reason even though Biggie is probably the best rapper of all time. You guys really need to wake up and get a life. The people here who listen to hip hop objectively can at least have a proper discussion about Pac without sucking his dick, but unfortunately 80% spend their lives hanging on the edge of every lyric 2Pac ever spoke. 2Pac isn't Jesus and he isn't going to absolve your sins. Get a job or something.

nah pac is the best rapper of all time (at least for me) ... period... biggie wasnt bad but pacs shit was deeper, keep ya head up, they dont give a fuck about us, dear mama ... etc. biggie never had songs like these (at least not that good).
if she swallow during brains, that's game she soaking up!
 

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Re: Hold Ya Head
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2009, 07:18:06 AM »
biggie was able to make "everyday struggle" and "juicy" but they don't hold a candle to "Dear MAma" or "Keep Ya Head Up'