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PItsburgh Penguins 2009 Stanley cup Champions Thread
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Mtl 's M-0-s-T on June 13, 2009, 08:04:29 PM ---A lesser team tho?? realy ? I mean i think these two teams are pretty equal since detroit won last year, pitsburgh this year... will see if they showdown next year.
And why cant the Nhl open with a Detroit Vs Pitsburgh prime time game on say a wensday night top kick off the Nhl season .. that would be great.
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On paper they were equal. In reality Pit played their asses off and won by making very little mistakes while Detroit played sloppy in all but 1 game. It was simply out of character. Crosby and Malkin were shut down by strogn defense. Hossa, Zetterberg, Cleary, etc were shut down by themselves. You're Dan Cleary you have a breakaway on the goalie and all you do try and shove it in his pad? It was pathetic. I do think datsyuk was more injured than he let on and having him heallthy for game 3 may have been the series, but whatever. I'm still amped up for next year and I wouldn't be if I was a Pens fan. If Hossa leaves Cleary goes back to line 2 and Holmstrom goes back with Dat and Zet and that's the killer line right there. Datsyuk holds the puck with his stick handling and then either shoots or distributes to an open Zetterberg while Holmstrom's in front blocking the goalie. It's such an easy strategy I don't get why they strayed from it.
teecee:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 13, 2009, 09:42:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mtl 's M-0-s-T on June 13, 2009, 08:04:29 PM ---A lesser team tho?? realy ? I mean i think these two teams are pretty equal since detroit won last year, pitsburgh this year... will see if they showdown next year.
And why cant the Nhl open with a Detroit Vs Pitsburgh prime time game on say a wensday night top kick off the Nhl season .. that would be great.
--- End quote ---
On paper they were equal. In reality Pit played their asses off and won by making very little mistakes while Detroit played sloppy in all but 1 game. It was simply out of character. Crosby and Malkin were shut down by strogn defense. Hossa, Zetterberg, Cleary, etc were shut down by themselves. You're Dan Cleary you have a breakaway on the goalie and all you do try and shove it in his pad? It was pathetic. I do think datsyuk was more injured than he let on and having him heallthy for game 3 may have been the series, but whatever. I'm still amped up for next year and I wouldn't be if I was a Pens fan. If Hossa leaves Cleary goes back to line 2 and Holmstrom goes back with Dat and Zet and that's the killer line right there. Datsyuk holds the puck with his stick handling and then either shoots or distributes to an open Zetterberg while Holmstrom's in front blocking the goalie. It's such an easy strategy I don't get why they strayed from it.
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Well, Datsyuk and Holmstrom sucked all playoffs, so its not =like it was a no brainer. The idea was to spread the scoring around so that the WIngsPens and other teams can't focus on one line. Much like how Malkin and Crosby don't play on hte same line.
Eiither way, if you lose in 7 in the final, you aren't the best team. Maybe on paper, but they didn't play like it. And DSatsyuk, besides the last two years, is a notorious playoff failure. I know he was hurt, but still...
Shallow:
--- Quote from: teecee on June 13, 2009, 10:16:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 13, 2009, 09:42:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mtl 's M-0-s-T on June 13, 2009, 08:04:29 PM ---A lesser team tho?? realy ? I mean i think these two teams are pretty equal since detroit won last year, pitsburgh this year... will see if they showdown next year.
And why cant the Nhl open with a Detroit Vs Pitsburgh prime time game on say a wensday night top kick off the Nhl season .. that would be great.
--- End quote ---
On paper they were equal. In reality Pit played their asses off and won by making very little mistakes while Detroit played sloppy in all but 1 game. It was simply out of character. Crosby and Malkin were shut down by strogn defense. Hossa, Zetterberg, Cleary, etc were shut down by themselves. You're Dan Cleary you have a breakaway on the goalie and all you do try and shove it in his pad? It was pathetic. I do think datsyuk was more injured than he let on and having him heallthy for game 3 may have been the series, but whatever. I'm still amped up for next year and I wouldn't be if I was a Pens fan. If Hossa leaves Cleary goes back to line 2 and Holmstrom goes back with Dat and Zet and that's the killer line right there. Datsyuk holds the puck with his stick handling and then either shoots or distributes to an open Zetterberg while Holmstrom's in front blocking the goalie. It's such an easy strategy I don't get why they strayed from it.
--- End quote ---
Well, Datsyuk and Holmstrom sucked all playoffs, so its not =like it was a no brainer. The idea was to spread the scoring around so that the WIngsPens and other teams can't focus on one line. Much like how Malkin and Crosby don't play on hte same line.
Eiither way, if you lose in 7 in the final, you aren't the best team. Maybe on paper, but they didn't play like it. And DSatsyuk, besides the last two years, is a notorious playoff failure. I know he was hurt, but still...
--- End quote ---
Weren't they on different lines all playoffs? The point is they showed up just last year playing together and after that horrible game 6 it was time to go back to what worked last year.
Either way, it's simple Detroit played poorly in game 7 by making bad passes and bad shots. Pit just couldn't do anything except capitalize on two giveaways. If Pit was setting up chance after chance and scored once or twice I'd give them their due, but scoring when given the puck infront of the net with no one else around and getting a clean break because Detroit moves up too many guys with out realizing no one is back is what you are supposed to do. If Talbot didn't score it'd have been a joke, like Cleary in game 6.
Pittsburgh in no way shape or form outplayed Detroit in that game. It's like winning a Football game 10-7 on a last minute TD made by the Defense off a mis-communicated lateral pass from the QB to no one, picked up by an LB and scoring a TD. Like the Miracle in the Meadowloands. All Detroit had to do was pace themselves a little and think before shooting and they would have won. Detroit beat themselves. And Hossa should be MVP.
teecee:
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 13, 2009, 10:41:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on June 13, 2009, 10:16:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on June 13, 2009, 09:42:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mtl 's M-0-s-T on June 13, 2009, 08:04:29 PM ---A lesser team tho?? realy ? I mean i think these two teams are pretty equal since detroit won last year, pitsburgh this year... will see if they showdown next year.
And why cant the Nhl open with a Detroit Vs Pitsburgh prime time game on say a wensday night top kick off the Nhl season .. that would be great.
--- End quote ---
On paper they were equal. In reality Pit played their asses off and won by making very little mistakes while Detroit played sloppy in all but 1 game. It was simply out of character. Crosby and Malkin were shut down by strogn defense. Hossa, Zetterberg, Cleary, etc were shut down by themselves. You're Dan Cleary you have a breakaway on the goalie and all you do try and shove it in his pad? It was pathetic. I do think datsyuk was more injured than he let on and having him heallthy for game 3 may have been the series, but whatever. I'm still amped up for next year and I wouldn't be if I was a Pens fan. If Hossa leaves Cleary goes back to line 2 and Holmstrom goes back with Dat and Zet and that's the killer line right there. Datsyuk holds the puck with his stick handling and then either shoots or distributes to an open Zetterberg while Holmstrom's in front blocking the goalie. It's such an easy strategy I don't get why they strayed from it.
--- End quote ---
Well, Datsyuk and Holmstrom sucked all playoffs, so its not =like it was a no brainer. The idea was to spread the scoring around so that the WIngsPens and other teams can't focus on one line. Much like how Malkin and Crosby don't play on hte same line.
Eiither way, if you lose in 7 in the final, you aren't the best team. Maybe on paper, but they didn't play like it. And DSatsyuk, besides the last two years, is a notorious playoff failure. I know he was hurt, but still...
--- End quote ---
Weren't they on different lines all playoffs? The point is they showed up just last year playing together and after that horrible game 6 it was time to go back to what worked last year.
Either way, it's simple Detroit played poorly in game 7 by making bad passes and bad shots. Pit just couldn't do anything except capitalize on two giveaways. If Pit was setting up chance after chance and scored once or twice I'd give them their due, but scoring when given the puck infront of the net with no one else around and getting a clean break because Detroit moves up too many guys with out realizing no one is back is what you are supposed to do. If Talbot didn't score it'd have been a joke, like Cleary in game 6.
Pittsburgh in no way shape or form outplayed Detroit in that game. It's like winning a Football game 10-7 on a last minute TD made by the Defense off a mis-communicated lateral pass from the QB to no one, picked up by an LB and scoring a TD. Like the Miracle in the Meadowloands. All Detroit had to do was pace themselves a little and think before shooting and they would have won. Detroit beat themselves. And Hossa should be MVP.
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Detroit didn't play their best, I will give you that? But dfont think for a second that was Pitssburgh's best either, especially if you watched them play through the playoffs. Malkin was average after the first few games, and Crosby couldn't buy a goal.
MontrealCity's Most:
I love it such a great debate compared to previous years when teams like Edmonton, carolina were in the finals, not truly the best teams in the league...
the last 2 years we had the best of the best.
Even the year before ottawa vs Anaheim we can see was the two best teams at the time.
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