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MidnightPills:
oh yeah another thing.. who actually attends that church anyways.. since most of the mayians were whipped out... so these people could not even be mayains attending the church......... i know my history....
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
Jesus was Jewish...Just a normal Jewish person...So how does it make sense when a Non-Jewish person labels a Jewish guy a prophet or "Son of God"...I dont see how it makes sense to be Catholic or Christian, when you consider a Jew a holy prophet...Some of the New Testiment has been proven wrong...I'm not hating, I'm just curious about the whole chatolic/christian situation...
There's only one God...
MidnightPills:
the thought of jesus being the son of god is just to much for some people to phathum... just like mary being a virgin all her life.. people cant phathum that... people seen just ressurected from the dead and still didnt believe..... i am just going to have to learn to accepted it... sad but true.... did it also accure to anyone that joesph wasnt mention through the whole bible... just in the beginning.... and maybe God sent joesph to marry mary because they would have killed her for being an unmarried women and pregnant... so did it accure to anyone here that maybe joesphs meaning was to take care of mary.. because it never said mary and joesph went to see jesus at the cross.. just mary...
it may be to much for someone to think about joesphs passing after the birth of christ....
these are just some thoughts for people to think about.. like i have... earlier today...
Ant:
umm listen..
the bible followed and practiced by the catholic religion was not written until 80 yrs after jesus's death.. that was the earliest gospel the final gospel that is recognized by the catholic church was written 150 yrs after jesus died. thats more than 3 generations later... take that for what you will...
secondly, if you go to europe or even in america and check out a major cathedral consider how those were built? where did the money come from? the weatlhy? somewhat, but in large part it was funeded by the poor either through direct taxation or by manipulating them to believe that their donations will bring them to a new life.
in rome for example the borghese galleria is considered by many to be the world's greatest personal collection of art. it includes many of benini's original sculptures as well as other amazing works of art... this collection was owned by a cardinal of the catholic church and assembled by funds taken from the poor and by theivery.many of the more spectacular peices were forced to be "donated" to the collection.
when pizzaro conquered the incan army he did so in the name of god. the incan king athallupa (i think that is spelled right) invited pizzaro to meet with him. when they met pizzaro handed athallupa the bible and ordered him to give up his idolitric religion and embrace jesus. athallupa not even knowing what a bible was refused and pizarro turned to his men announced that the incan king was an infidel and ordered them to attack. the incans were armed only with clubs, and the spanairds with swords and guns. they slaughtered an estimated 8,000 incans captured the king and ransomed him for all the gold in the land. when his people brought him the gold pizzaro executed king athallupa. all in the name of the catholic church.
in the 1900's the vatican openly tolerated slavery.
in jamaica gay's are commonly beaten and killed due to influence from catholic missionaries that converted much of jamaica. men who are born with speech impedements are often beaten because of on the belief that they may be gay. this comes from spending a week there and talking to many of the locals who attest to beating any man that even talks funny.
there are many other acts commited by the catholic church. just as there are acts commited by mormons and muslims and jews...
the point is.. believe what you want, but don't get so naive and arrogant to trash someone else becuz u think ur "mature".
M Dogg™:
No one said the Catholic church is not fucked up. I'm the first to admit it has many flaws. But the faith itself does not commite these crimes. Just like the Muslim faith did not bust through the WTC, the Christians did not kill 6 million Jews and the Hindus and Muslim religions fight over land. The relgions don't do this, it's the people that follow. We as people do stupit shit, just like the Catholic followers killing many Native Americans, Muslim Moores and taking money fromt the rich. But the thing is that the Catholic Chruch also has done many great things, like all religion, and I do believe in what is teached, not done. I believe that Jesus Christ is the savor, I believe the Virgin Mary was the most perfect person, and that she was assended to Heaven, and that there is a Pregatory for all those who die, to allow them to see that Christ is the savor. Pregatory, and the Virgin Mary are beliefs that the Catholic Church holds, that non of the other Christian faiths don't hold. These are my beliefs, just like NIK is a Jew and Tech is a Muslim. We are questioned for this, because in the United States, in the Christian faith, it is looked down to be Catholic. Also, we are Mexican, which in our traditional culture, the Catholic Church is very much apart of community, and many religious leaders in the Catholic Church continue to fight for the rights of the poor Latin Americas all over Latin America. So well others look at the negatives, I see what I believe, see the faults of the past, and see the improvements that has taken place now.
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