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M Dogg™:
Also, books written 3 generations ago would be like if you wrote down your grandpa's stories about like WWII. It's not that off, and a lot closer to the time of Christ then when Protestians re-wrote stuff 1500 years later. And as you can tell by Trauma's story, Christ has be proven to live, and is considered important, so them stories that were written in books had to have some sort of truth, and when I listened to my late grandpa talk, I could have wrote it down, and I could be pretty close to what was truth.
Ant:
umm yeah exactly pretty close to the truth. but many time people take word for word literal interpretations.
many times when a story is retold is becomes more grand.
also if u want to site the evidence trauma showed u of jesus's existence then u must also consider the other gospels that are found but ignored by the church. there are gospels dating to the time of jesus, explaining his life and telling different stories but the church will not admit to its existence.
and while u can say the church did not influence people, when they openly tolerate slavery in the 1800s and when u have cardinals going around stealing and condeming people whatever. u can blame it on people
my belief is this, all religions have good and bad, they are all corrupt in some ways... so why would i stick to EVERY single belief the church tells me
the church says mary was a virgin, the church also said slavery was an ok thing to do... SEE THE POINT?
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Ant on October 26, 2002, 02:40:44 PM ---umm yeah exactly pretty close to the truth. but many time people take word for word literal interpretations.
many times when a story is retold is becomes more grand.
also if u want to site the evidence trauma showed u of jesus's existence then u must also consider the other gospels that are found but ignored by the church. there are gospels dating to the time of jesus, explaining his life and telling different stories but the church will not admit to its existence.
and while u can say the church did not influence people, when they openly tolerate slavery in the 1800s and when u have cardinals going around stealing and condeming people whatever. u can blame it on people
my belief is this, all religions have good and bad, they are all corrupt in some ways... so why would i stick to EVERY single belief the church tells me
the church says mary was a virgin, the church also said slavery was an ok thing to do... SEE THE POINT?
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No I don't. Because I told you, I think that people fuck up leading the church.
Let's start with the books. Like the Gospel of Thomas. It's basically like the other Gospels,same stories, and not as much detail. Other books like this exist also, but the books used are the ones that have the simular story as the others. So if like 5 books say that Jesus rose a child up from the dead, then they will say that it happen. If you only have one story of Jesus becoming superpowerful, and doing things that people didn't remember, no matter how great it was, then you have to question the source, if no one knew what was going on. I know of all these books, because I keep inform, but to be honest, I think the early founders of the church knew what they were doing, and I trust them for laying the early foundation to the religion that is now Christianity. Most people know question them, but we have no rights, some new books pop up, and we feel lied too, know thinking about why they weren't put in. But non of the stories counter act with the church curtant belief, some very much strengthn, but all have reasons.
As for what the church tells me. It's not the church, it's the Bible. The Bible says that Mary assended into heaven, the Bible says that there is a Prigatory, and it was people that said slavery was right. Now who am I going to believe, the book of God, or some people. And as I say, I'm the first to say the Catholic Church has done some fucked up things, but they are now one of the leaders behind fighting for peoples rights. That's the truth. Peace.
Ant:
my point is this...
the catholic church provides us with guidance. that is all. to believe it all 100% is up to u but i think is nuts. they have in the past been wrong numerous occasions, as have other religions and other sects within christianity.
but just as each sect or religion has its faults they all have their benefits. if u look to them for guidance u gain more than if u look to them for complete answers.
the catholic church is not completely right. different muslim beliefs are slightly misguided. different buddhist beliefs are too. mormons have some errors in their beliefs as well.
they all have pluses as well..... its up to each person to decide for themself what that religion has to offer them and what they disagree with.
M Dogg™:
LOL... isn't that what I said I did... LOL
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