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My point of the thread was to point out snoop is an over rated artist.Doggystle was a collective effort and if you took snoop off that project and inserted another emcee in his parts while snoop played the side role the album would still be a classic.I made the thread because kept defending snoop as some great artist because he made doggystyle when 70 percent of that albums greatness was because of others output.Snoop could never make a classic album if it was up to him by himself which he has proved throughout his career
Quote from: K1NG PETEY on June 26, 2009, 03:34:58 PMif your not really battle cat you should probably shoot yourself in the face.get the nuts biiiyatch...i dont talk ta hoes with dick on they breath...
if your not really battle cat you should probably shoot yourself in the face.
Doggystyle, Doggfather, and Blue Carpet Treatment were classics albums
Quote from: HACK WILSON on June 26, 2009, 05:38:08 PMGza out-did 36 chambers....some people think Raekwan did too2pac out-did Me Against the World...and THEN out-did All Eyez Quik's first 2 albums are classics to me but Safe N Sound was his best (3rd album)and after long debate, i've decided that NWA's Niggaz4life is a better overall album than Str8 Outta ComptonFor GZA and Raekwon, their debuts are Liquid Swords and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (which are their best albums). 36 Chambers is a Wu Tang album and doesn't count as their individual debut, otherwise you might as well call The Chronic Snoop's debut.Never really got into Quik myself. I think only his first album could even be considered a classic. The word classic means an album that is influential and has stood the test of time. His first album was the most well recieved by people in general (though you may have a different personal opinion)Niggaz4life only was better in terms of production. You are the first person I have met who actually thinks its a better album, most people believe they weren't as good without Cube.As I said in my first post, Pac is one of the only rappers I can think of who managed to put out a classic album and then outdo it. Mobb Deep have as well. But its hard to come up with examples, which is the whole point. Snoop is no more different then the majority of rappers in that they are unable to put out an album to even come close to their debut.
Gza out-did 36 chambers....some people think Raekwan did too2pac out-did Me Against the World...and THEN out-did All Eyez Quik's first 2 albums are classics to me but Safe N Sound was his best (3rd album)and after long debate, i've decided that NWA's Niggaz4life is a better overall album than Str8 Outta Compton
They gave it to snoop because he was the artist they were pushing next.Whenever deathrow had an album coming out suge made everyone on the label get behind it and put their best work into it instead of saving it for their own album
Here's what I don't get about snoop.The man is a star,a legend.He doesn't need to conform to whatever is popular to sell.His best music is always made with dre and dpg members.But what does he do?Whatever is popular.He's a sellout to his artistry.Its so frustrating seeing someone that could be so much better become an industry whore who will work with whoevers hot at the moment.Since he left death row he's become such a joke.People still buy his albums just off the strength of doggystyle.
Quote from: rapsodie on June 26, 2009, 06:42:33 PMQuote from: HACK WILSON on June 26, 2009, 05:38:08 PMGza out-did 36 chambers....some people think Raekwan did too2pac out-did Me Against the World...and THEN out-did All Eyez Quik's first 2 albums are classics to me but Safe N Sound was his best (3rd album)and after long debate, i've decided that NWA's Niggaz4life is a better overall album than Str8 Outta ComptonFor GZA and Raekwon, their debuts are Liquid Swords and Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (which are their best albums). 36 Chambers is a Wu Tang album and doesn't count as their individual debut, otherwise you might as well call The Chronic Snoop's debut.Never really got into Quik myself. I think only his first album could even be considered a classic. The word classic means an album that is influential and has stood the test of time. His first album was the most well recieved by people in general (though you may have a different personal opinion)Niggaz4life only was better in terms of production. You are the first person I have met who actually thinks its a better album, most people believe they weren't as good without Cube.As I said in my first post, Pac is one of the only rappers I can think of who managed to put out a classic album and then outdo it. Mobb Deep have as well. But its hard to come up with examples, which is the whole point. Snoop is no more different then the majority of rappers in that they are unable to put out an album to even come close to their debut.GZA had an album out before Liquid SwordsEasy Mo Bee produced it