Author Topic: UNTAGGED: Bishop Lamont "Nothing Could Be Better" ft. Suga Free, Butch.. (Audio)  (Read 767 times)

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Props Nima ! Great to have this one with no DJ Tags  :D
 

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i just dunno what to think about bishop any more. he drops some bangers, quality joints, then the next minute his flow is all lazy or he's on some corny kinda track.

seems like the longer he's been working with dre, the more he's learning to become a 'songmaker' and sound like 50 cent on records. problem is, 50 isn't a good rapper any more, nobody wants to hear that shit. 'city lights' is a great example of his flow being mediocre, lazy, uninspired. i'd like it if bishop just came with the raw shit, cause he obviously can.

the joys of being signed to interscope :laugh:
yeah i think it's safe to say that the lazy flow is not a signal for lack of talent: apparently there's a philosophy behind the lazy flow  :laugh: i don't think anyone has brought this up in an interview.

i do know that bishop sometimes raps for the "bitches"  ::) this has always been a part of him, so it's not new at all.
by the way, was 50 cent ever a good rapper then?

anyway, Dr.Dre & interscope definitely influence the musical direction of bishop's songs, but i really think that bishop is mainly responsible for the lazy flow.
not to mention that it was him, that had put out "singles" with a questionable musical direction, after Grow Up.

which is why i think that bishop's output wouldn't drastically change if he took the independent route: he could gain more freedom, but he would still be the same artist :-\
it would be hilarious though if he decided to put out two EP's: the lazy flow EP & the fireworks EP  :D







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Props Nima ! Great to have this one with no DJ Tags  :D
 

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Thanks, NIMA.  8)



also, would you be able to obtain an untagged copy of Game feat. Snoopy - "On the Block"  or Charles Hamilton - "On Your Level" ???  those also were tagged by Skee... i'm dying to hear those joints in cdq.

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50 used to be alright. get rich or die trying was a decent enough album (questionable that so many people think it's a classic) but it was before that when his rapping was most competent. a more laid back, funky flow and some nice rhyming.

bishop has a different style, spits more like a typical lyrical rapper (not a bad thing) and to me sounds MUCH more at home with the faster flows and crisp delivery. if you listen to 'bitches on my dick' or 'city lights' he sounds terrible imo. worse yet, that 'you know the code' track'. i really don't like the slurring and extending of words for emphasis on those club style tracks, it sounds really forced and corny. 'hallelujah' strikes a good balance, but i much prefer the vibe and his delivery on this track here.

i said this before, but 'donkey kong savage' is easily one the best bishop tracks for flow/delivery and there's a great track produced by scott storch on pope mobile - 'all i dream about', where he rides a more laid back beat nice 8)

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 8) New Bishop! + Suga Free & Butch also in the mix =  8)
THX for the drop.

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This version sounds much quieter then the tagged version  ??? matty you should give this a touch up
 

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I don't have a problem if Bishop becomes a better song maker.  In fact, I think it's an essential transition from being just a rapper that can freestyle and becoming a classic artist.  If you master the lyrics and you learn to master cadence, vocal tone, pitch, note delivery, flow, etc then you can properly apply lyrics and flow.  Unfortunately, not many do.

Some people act like being lyrical is the end all, be all of rap.  It's not.  Sometimes writing lyrics that are simple but relevant and relatable is much more significant then dropping a hundred dope similes or metaphors.

Not to disrespect Slaughterhouse but this is what the group as a whole needs to learn...if they don't already know.  To me, Budden and Crooked-I are the two who act like being lyrical is all that matters.  Budden needs to develop his entire vocal approach and Crooked-I does too.  Seriously, Crooked for the most part sounds the same on every track.  The last track he sounded different on was W's Down and was probably the dopest solo track I've heard from in a minute.  I think Royce is probably the best artist of the group and Joell Ortiz is on the route to being a classic artist.

Don't confuse this with hate.  I bump all of their music.  I'm just distinguishing what makes a classic artist and a great rapper.
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txs Nima!!

is that right that bishop has a song with nate dogg??
"There's one more thing I'd really like for you to do, never leave me alone..."
 

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Not to disrespect Slaughterhouse but this is what the group as a whole needs to learn...if they don't already know.  To me, Budden and Crooked-I are the two who act like being lyrical is all that matters.  Budden needs to develop his entire vocal approach and Crooked-I does too.  Seriously, Crooked for the most part sounds the same on every track.  The last track he sounded different on was W's Down and was probably the dopest solo track I've heard from in a minute.  I think Royce is probably the best artist of the group and Joell Ortiz is on the route to being a classic artist.

Don't confuse this with hate.  I bump all of their music.  I'm just distinguishing what makes a classic artist and a great rapper.

Well said. Crooked has the talent and he knows he can kill a track but he need go trough different approaches. For Budden, I've never felt dude. Exactly what you said, his vocals block his lyrics. Plus they shouldn't have the attitude like "we're the best and every song we make is a classic", they need to focus on their project and make it a masterpiece.
 

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50 used to be alright. get rich or die trying was a decent enough album (questionable that so many people think it's a classic) but it was before that when his rapping was most competent. a more laid back, funky flow and some nice rhyming.

bishop has a different style, spits more like a typical lyrical rapper (not a bad thing) and to me sounds MUCH more at home with the faster flows and crisp delivery. if you listen to 'bitches on my dick' or 'city lights' he sounds terrible imo.
about 50 cent: fair enough ;) i agree with your rating. yeah the classic stamp says more about the fans than the album  :D

anyway, about the songs you listed: i hear you  ;) On Top Now is another example, and there's more, but we both know what we're discussing so there's no need to list more  :laugh:

this flow doesn't make the songs unlistenable for me, but it does take away some of it's shine, especially when you know what Bishop is capable of.


worse yet, that 'you know the code' track'. i really don't like the slurring and extending of words for emphasis on those club style tracks, it sounds really forced and corny. 'hallelujah' strikes a good balance, but i much prefer the vibe and his delivery on this track here.

i said this before, but 'donkey kong savage' is easily one the best bishop tracks for flow/delivery and there's a great track produced by scott storch on pope mobile - 'all i dream about', where he rides a more laid back beat nice 8)
to be honest with you, i don't even know how you know the code sounds anymore, but i do remember that i turned it off quickly  :laugh: based on your description, i think it's better not to check it again  ;D
by the way, that way of rapping you just described, is also on Kissin' the curb: it's really out of place.
well i actually prefer Hallelujah, but that's just a matter of taste  8)

as far as the flow on All i dream about is concerned: you probably like the flow on Music shit as well ;)
and the one from i'm a warrior/Toe tag

anyway, i guess some bishop fans should be executive producers :D
I don't have a problem if Bishop becomes a better song maker.  In fact, I think it's an essential transition from being just a rapper that can freestyle and becoming a classic artist.  If you master the lyrics and you learn to master cadence, vocal tone, pitch, note delivery, flow, etc then you can properly apply lyrics and flow.  Unfortunately, not many do.

Some people act like being lyrical is the end all, be all of rap.  It's not.  Sometimes writing lyrics that are simple but relevant and relatable is much more significant then dropping a hundred dope similes or metaphors.

Not to disrespect Slaughterhouse but this is what the group as a whole needs to learn...if they don't already know.  To me, Budden and Crooked-I are the two who act like being lyrical is all that matters.  Budden needs to develop his entire vocal approach and Crooked-I does too.  Seriously, Crooked for the most part sounds the same on every track.  The last track he sounded different on was W's Down and was probably the dopest solo track I've heard from in a minute.  I think Royce is probably the best artist of the group and Joell Ortiz is on the route to being a classic artist.

Don't confuse this with hate.  I bump all of their music.  I'm just distinguishing what makes a classic artist and a great rapper.
exactly, great post! props  :cheers:
making good songs is a skill, definitely.


mp3 with proper gain

http://www.sendspace.com/file/2oyrbr
thanks :)
but i tell you, sendspace sucks. mediafire is better for example.
i got the track now though
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