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Quote from: Action! on August 10, 2009, 10:02:24 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click3. influence on the game cannot be established in 2009; nobody will ever influence the game. Wayne sold 3 million records, he didn't influence shit; nobody can influence the game; people like you who live in the past will simply not allow that LOL.Thanks for the props but...You're going to deny Lil Wayne's influence on the game? I'm not even a fucking fan but you have to be blind to say he didn't have an influence. Kanye has had a major influence. 50 had and may POSSIBLY still have a major influence. Everyone has a role and in some way or another provided influence but when people speak of influence on the game they mean on the big level and the fact of the matter is Budden has yet to do that. One can legitimately say Wu-Tang has had a far greater influence on the rap game than Joe Budden has. I ain't hating. Just how it's been so far..Though, this has nothing to do with the original comment by Budden. Just disagreeing with your comment...unless you were being sarcastic.my comment on influence was kind of "hyperbolized", Wayne had an influence on swag & some rappers style of coming up & into the game.but the main point was that, nobody of today will ever be compared to rappers or albums of yesterday. people like Jrome, won't let that happen.the rap game was established 20 years ago by those big names of the 90's & people will NEVER allow people today to be mentioned; it's near BLASPHEMY.so when people say "what influence does Joe Budden hold?", it doesn't matter; what do i care what kind of legacy Joe Budden leads? as long as the music keeps dropping & as long as it's better than the music Wu puts out in the year 2009; i don't give a fuck what was hot in the 90's lol.Joe Budden never said anything about their old shit, he is talking about today & Wu-Tang still thinks they can run with him; well they really don't because they turned it physical for a reason.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click3. influence on the game cannot be established in 2009; nobody will ever influence the game. Wayne sold 3 million records, he didn't influence shit; nobody can influence the game; people like you who live in the past will simply not allow that LOL.Thanks for the props but...You're going to deny Lil Wayne's influence on the game? I'm not even a fucking fan but you have to be blind to say he didn't have an influence. Kanye has had a major influence. 50 had and may POSSIBLY still have a major influence. Everyone has a role and in some way or another provided influence but when people speak of influence on the game they mean on the big level and the fact of the matter is Budden has yet to do that. One can legitimately say Wu-Tang has had a far greater influence on the rap game than Joe Budden has. I ain't hating. Just how it's been so far..Though, this has nothing to do with the original comment by Budden. Just disagreeing with your comment...unless you were being sarcastic.
3. influence on the game cannot be established in 2009; nobody will ever influence the game. Wayne sold 3 million records, he didn't influence shit; nobody can influence the game; people like you who live in the past will simply not allow that LOL.
It really is as simple as this. Joey has been running off at the mouth for a long time now, at last somebody smacked him like a bitch running her mouth should be smacked. Now hes back running his mouth again. At the end of the day even after he got slapped he had the oppertunity to ask Rae for a fair one on camera and rae would have had to respond to the challenge.This aint about hip hop or any of that so i dont know why people are trying to make it that. Its about a grown man who has no credible street history talking on other grown men who have credible history. He got stepped to and didnt back up his shit talking...end of.
Quote from: Jrome The Don Killuminati on August 10, 2009, 09:51:11 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on August 10, 2009, 03:06:59 PMQuote from: Soulless on August 10, 2009, 03:02:22 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on August 10, 2009, 02:59:57 PMheard the whole thing, not really feeling what he's saying.part of it sounds like he REALLY doesn't want problems with Rae & he wants it to breeze over & the way he will get back at him if he doesn't "Square Dance", he's going to get him jumped? if i'm understanding this.he should just say he is going to sound off on him on the mic, not a fan of this move. Well why would you get at someone on wax that had you physically attacked.Sounds like a fair thing joey just wants to fight him one on one.It wont happen though.because i think everybody, including Joe Budden doesn't see the big picture here.ALL these problems are because Joe Budden said he is a better rapper; Wu-Tang KNOWS they can't see him on the mic, so Rae went & got physical to try to take the light off of the rapping part of it.i don't have a problem with Joey fighting Rae & trying to prove he is tougher than Rae says he is; but he has to show that he's tougher & he is a much better rapper by dissing them.point is, he needs to drop a diss track; even if they scrap.Joe started this entire thing. None of this would be happening if it weren't for him running his mouth, and continuing to run his mouth. Thems the facts.And you keep saying Wu can't see Joe on the mic? Please stop saying that shit because it's retarded. What's Joe's best verse? What's Joe's best album? What's been Joe's influence on the game? Who can pack a house and rock a crowd? Who's dropped undisputed classic albums? 1. Joe's best verse today >>> Rae, Meth or Deck2. Joe's best album of today >>> Rae, Meth or Deck3. influence on the game cannot be established in 2009; nobody will ever influence the game. Wayne sold 3 million records, he didn't influence shit; nobody can influence the game; people like you who live in the past will simply not allow that LOL.4. Slaughterhouse can rock a crowd JUST as easily as Wu in 2009.5. Wu-Tang did.get out of the past LOL, you're either the biggest Wu-Tang fan or the biggest Joe Budden hater, which one would you like to be referred to as?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 10, 2009, 03:06:59 PMQuote from: Soulless on August 10, 2009, 03:02:22 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on August 10, 2009, 02:59:57 PMheard the whole thing, not really feeling what he's saying.part of it sounds like he REALLY doesn't want problems with Rae & he wants it to breeze over & the way he will get back at him if he doesn't "Square Dance", he's going to get him jumped? if i'm understanding this.he should just say he is going to sound off on him on the mic, not a fan of this move. Well why would you get at someone on wax that had you physically attacked.Sounds like a fair thing joey just wants to fight him one on one.It wont happen though.because i think everybody, including Joe Budden doesn't see the big picture here.ALL these problems are because Joe Budden said he is a better rapper; Wu-Tang KNOWS they can't see him on the mic, so Rae went & got physical to try to take the light off of the rapping part of it.i don't have a problem with Joey fighting Rae & trying to prove he is tougher than Rae says he is; but he has to show that he's tougher & he is a much better rapper by dissing them.point is, he needs to drop a diss track; even if they scrap.Joe started this entire thing. None of this would be happening if it weren't for him running his mouth, and continuing to run his mouth. Thems the facts.And you keep saying Wu can't see Joe on the mic? Please stop saying that shit because it's retarded. What's Joe's best verse? What's Joe's best album? What's been Joe's influence on the game? Who can pack a house and rock a crowd? Who's dropped undisputed classic albums?
Quote from: Soulless on August 10, 2009, 03:02:22 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on August 10, 2009, 02:59:57 PMheard the whole thing, not really feeling what he's saying.part of it sounds like he REALLY doesn't want problems with Rae & he wants it to breeze over & the way he will get back at him if he doesn't "Square Dance", he's going to get him jumped? if i'm understanding this.he should just say he is going to sound off on him on the mic, not a fan of this move. Well why would you get at someone on wax that had you physically attacked.Sounds like a fair thing joey just wants to fight him one on one.It wont happen though.because i think everybody, including Joe Budden doesn't see the big picture here.ALL these problems are because Joe Budden said he is a better rapper; Wu-Tang KNOWS they can't see him on the mic, so Rae went & got physical to try to take the light off of the rapping part of it.i don't have a problem with Joey fighting Rae & trying to prove he is tougher than Rae says he is; but he has to show that he's tougher & he is a much better rapper by dissing them.point is, he needs to drop a diss track; even if they scrap.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 10, 2009, 02:59:57 PMheard the whole thing, not really feeling what he's saying.part of it sounds like he REALLY doesn't want problems with Rae & he wants it to breeze over & the way he will get back at him if he doesn't "Square Dance", he's going to get him jumped? if i'm understanding this.he should just say he is going to sound off on him on the mic, not a fan of this move. Well why would you get at someone on wax that had you physically attacked.Sounds like a fair thing joey just wants to fight him one on one.It wont happen though.
heard the whole thing, not really feeling what he's saying.part of it sounds like he REALLY doesn't want problems with Rae & he wants it to breeze over & the way he will get back at him if he doesn't "Square Dance", he's going to get him jumped? if i'm understanding this.he should just say he is going to sound off on him on the mic, not a fan of this move.
basically, these are grown men trying to act hardit looks pathetic on both parts
cool man, i see your pointI was sayin bullshit at you sayin Joey is better than Rae/Meth etc, caus e i genuinly dont thinks hes on the same level, even today
Are you saying that some music made in the 90s is only held in a classic status because its from the 90s? Thats ignorant, there was wack shit too in that age.
I hope this shit don't get out of hand. They was on the West Coast and Crooked called his people there but what gonna happen when they performin' in the East Coast?
Quote from: Paul on August 11, 2009, 12:17:11 PMcool man, i see your pointI was sayin bullshit at you sayin Joey is better than Rae/Meth etc, caus e i genuinly dont thinks hes on the same level, even todayi respect your opinion, but disagree.Quote from: meecca on August 11, 2009, 12:28:55 PMAre you saying that some music made in the 90s is only held in a classic status because its from the 90s? Thats ignorant, there was wack shit too in that age.not all music their is DEFINATLY songs that gain a higher stature because they were made in the 90's opposed to if they were mad today.songs in the 90's that are "4-4.5/5" would be concidered 3/5 today.the internet ruined rap, everybody and their mother gives an opinon & then 1,000 people bandwagon that opinon without an individual thought of their own.great albums of today would be undisputed classics if made in 1997.
^i feel what you're sayin' & i agree that more dope albums were made in from '90-'99, but their has been been tons of dope & even some classic music within the last 10 years.but i feel if you were talking about a 4/5 album from the 90's or a 4.5-5/5 album of today; the 90's album would get the praise.but like you said, maybe in 10 years from now we'll say some albums of today are undisputed classics.