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Why do you need 5 innings for a "Win"?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:03:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 07:48:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on September 16, 2009, 06:05:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Knuckles on September 16, 2009, 11:11:18 AM ---I think you should need 5 innings to take get loss too. That makes just about as much sense to me.
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LOL!!! that makes ZERO Sense
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i have to agree with that.
what if a pitcher gives up 11 runs in 1/3 of an inning? he should lose that game lol.
--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on September 16, 2009, 07:24:19 PM ---Any variation of the W-L stat will still have problems. How about you just dismiss the people that solely rely on how good a pitcher is based on their number of wins? I've been doing this for years.
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ERA is the stat to look at.
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SMH
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enlighten me Tommy. :laugh:
herpes:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 08:04:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:03:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 07:48:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on September 16, 2009, 06:05:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Knuckles on September 16, 2009, 11:11:18 AM ---I think you should need 5 innings to take get loss too. That makes just about as much sense to me.
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LOL!!! that makes ZERO Sense
--- End quote ---
i have to agree with that.
what if a pitcher gives up 11 runs in 1/3 of an inning? he should lose that game lol.
--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on September 16, 2009, 07:24:19 PM ---Any variation of the W-L stat will still have problems. How about you just dismiss the people that solely rely on how good a pitcher is based on their number of wins? I've been doing this for years.
--- End quote ---
ERA is the stat to look at.
--- End quote ---
SMH
--- End quote ---
enlighten me Tommy. :laugh:
--- End quote ---
There is so much more to a pitcher than just ERA in this day and age. Don't get me wrong ERA is still a key element in gauging a pitchers sucess but over the past 10 other stats have become just as important. ERA can be very misleading if you don't look at his other peripherals which can show potential trends which tells you where a pitcher may end up in the long run and by long run I mean season. And more times than not is spot on most of the time. Of course exceptions to the rules do exist. But that is really looking deep into. Where look at a stat that is just as important as ERA. WHIP has become just as important as ERA. Do you know what WHIP is ?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:17:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 08:04:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:03:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 07:48:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on September 16, 2009, 06:05:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Knuckles on September 16, 2009, 11:11:18 AM ---I think you should need 5 innings to take get loss too. That makes just about as much sense to me.
--- End quote ---
LOL!!! that makes ZERO Sense
--- End quote ---
i have to agree with that.
what if a pitcher gives up 11 runs in 1/3 of an inning? he should lose that game lol.
--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on September 16, 2009, 07:24:19 PM ---Any variation of the W-L stat will still have problems. How about you just dismiss the people that solely rely on how good a pitcher is based on their number of wins? I've been doing this for years.
--- End quote ---
ERA is the stat to look at.
--- End quote ---
SMH
--- End quote ---
enlighten me Tommy. :laugh:
--- End quote ---
There is so much more to a pitcher than just ERA in this day and age. Don't get me wrong ERA is still a key element in gauging a pitchers sucess but over the past 10 other stats have become just as important. ERA can be very misleading if you don't look at his other peripherals which can show potential trends which tells you where a pitcher may end up in the long run and by long run I mean season. And more times than not is spot on most of the time. Of course exceptions to the rules do exist. But that is really looking deep into. Where look at a stat that is just as important as ERA. WHIP has become just as important as ERA. Do you know what WHIP is ?
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yeah, add the hits & walks & divide it by the number of innings pitched. acceptional enough, master?
if Tim Lincecum gave up 3 hits every inning of every game & then got out of the jam every single time & his ERA read 0.00, i wouldn't hold his WHIP against him lol.
ERA is just straight up, how many runs do you give up? it wins ball games (not statistcally), but for the team; i find that more valuable than having impressing WHIP stats, sorry master. :-\
herpes:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 08:24:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:17:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 08:04:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:03:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 07:48:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on September 16, 2009, 06:05:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Knuckles on September 16, 2009, 11:11:18 AM ---I think you should need 5 innings to take get loss too. That makes just about as much sense to me.
--- End quote ---
LOL!!! that makes ZERO Sense
--- End quote ---
i have to agree with that.
what if a pitcher gives up 11 runs in 1/3 of an inning? he should lose that game lol.
--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on September 16, 2009, 07:24:19 PM ---Any variation of the W-L stat will still have problems. How about you just dismiss the people that solely rely on how good a pitcher is based on their number of wins? I've been doing this for years.
--- End quote ---
ERA is the stat to look at.
--- End quote ---
SMH
--- End quote ---
enlighten me Tommy. :laugh:
--- End quote ---
There is so much more to a pitcher than just ERA in this day and age. Don't get me wrong ERA is still a key element in gauging a pitchers sucess but over the past 10 other stats have become just as important. ERA can be very misleading if you don't look at his other peripherals which can show potential trends which tells you where a pitcher may end up in the long run and by long run I mean season. And more times than not is spot on most of the time. Of course exceptions to the rules do exist. But that is really looking deep into. Where look at a stat that is just as important as ERA. WHIP has become just as important as ERA. Do you know what WHIP is ?
--- End quote ---
yeah, add the hits & walks & divide it by the number of innings pitched. acceptional enough, master?
if Tim Lincecum gave up 3 hits every inning of every game & then got out of the jam every single time & his ERA read 0.00, i wouldn't hold his WHIP against him lol.
ERA is just straight up, how many runs do you give up? it wins ball games (not statistcally), but for the team; i find that more valuable than having impressing WHIP stats, sorry master. :-\
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Do you read ? I said exceptions to the rule do exist. More times than not though that will eventually catch up with a pitcher. And the example you gave is really c'mon. I don't know why I argue you with you. i tried to come at you just now like an adult and you gotta act like a 10 year old... master.... really ?
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:28:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 08:24:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:17:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 08:04:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom on September 16, 2009, 08:03:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 16, 2009, 07:48:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: "THE" MoSav on September 16, 2009, 06:05:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Knuckles on September 16, 2009, 11:11:18 AM ---I think you should need 5 innings to take get loss too. That makes just about as much sense to me.
--- End quote ---
LOL!!! that makes ZERO Sense
--- End quote ---
i have to agree with that.
what if a pitcher gives up 11 runs in 1/3 of an inning? he should lose that game lol.
--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on September 16, 2009, 07:24:19 PM ---Any variation of the W-L stat will still have problems. How about you just dismiss the people that solely rely on how good a pitcher is based on their number of wins? I've been doing this for years.
--- End quote ---
ERA is the stat to look at.
--- End quote ---
SMH
--- End quote ---
enlighten me Tommy. :laugh:
--- End quote ---
There is so much more to a pitcher than just ERA in this day and age. Don't get me wrong ERA is still a key element in gauging a pitchers sucess but over the past 10 other stats have become just as important. ERA can be very misleading if you don't look at his other peripherals which can show potential trends which tells you where a pitcher may end up in the long run and by long run I mean season. And more times than not is spot on most of the time. Of course exceptions to the rules do exist. But that is really looking deep into. Where look at a stat that is just as important as ERA. WHIP has become just as important as ERA. Do you know what WHIP is ?
--- End quote ---
yeah, add the hits & walks & divide it by the number of innings pitched. acceptional enough, master?
if Tim Lincecum gave up 3 hits every inning of every game & then got out of the jam every single time & his ERA read 0.00, i wouldn't hold his WHIP against him lol.
ERA is just straight up, how many runs do you give up? it wins ball games (not statistcally), but for the team; i find that more valuable than having impressing WHIP stats, sorry master. :-\
--- End quote ---
Do you read ? I said exceptions to the rule do exist. More times than not though that will eventually catch up with a pitcher. And the example you gave is really c'mon. I don't know why I argue you with you. i tried to come at you just now like an adult and you gotta act like a 10 year old... master.... really ?
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"do you know what WHIP is darling?"
i was under the assumption i was a 10 year old. :laugh:
anyway, it was just exaggeration that WHIP can be broken & not mean as much as ERA, it's not like i signed it off as "pointless" lol.
point being, i'd rather have the guy with the 2.50 ERA & 2.50 WHIP than the guy who has a 3.35 ERA & a 2.15 WHIP.
therefore ERA > WHIP, in my opinion (that means shit anyway lol).
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