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Muslims, don't depend on non-Muslim governments
Ant:
--- Quote from: King Trauma on November 05, 2002, 08:38:36 PM ---^^ You don't have to be muslim to have good values. You can do that here in america no matter what religion you are.
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I agree with that statement wholeheartedly. I appreciate my religious up bringing in that it provided an effective way to teach me values from an early age. Many of which became a part of who I am. But in saying that I am regarding religion more so as a tool to teach values than the ONLY means to instill them.
Trauma-san:
^^ For Shizzle :) Religion teaches values, but it's not the only way to have values... but it is pretty effective, lol. I'm a latter day saint, and Utah, which is 70% LDS, has the highest birth rate in america, but the lowest teen pregnancy rate. The largest percentage of 2 parent households; it has the lowest percentage of armed forces recruitment, but the highest percentage of college educated women, the highest charitible contribution rate, the highest average life expectancy rate, The lowest divorce rate, the lowest teen poverty rate; it's the state with the least spent per student on education, but yet has the highest test scores in the nation. Stuff like that. Peace~
infinite59:
--- Quote from: King Trauma on November 05, 2002, 08:38:36 PM ---^^ You don't have to be muslim to have good values. You can do that here in america no matter what religion you are.
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Trauma. If America was 90% Mormons we wouldn't be having this discussion. But whether you see it or not, America is deteriorating and debasing itself. Like the father of sociology, Ibn Khaldun said, "societies have life expectancies, and those forces that caused it to flourish will reverse themselves and cause it to decline."
No, you don't have to be a Muslim to have good values. But, America as a whole has terrible values. Most Americans have abondoned their natural inclination towards their Creator.
I am not saying that Muslims want to force anyone to be a Muslim. As it says in the Qur'an, "There is no compulsion in religion." But what we do want to do as Muslims is be an example to those in the dark.
Trauma-san:
What are you saying, then? Is this just another post where you talk to hear yourself talk? Your post was not to depend on the government, because america is deteriorating and moral values are low... then I post that with the current government situation, it's very possible to have high moral values... then you post and say america has horrible values. What are you saying?
infinite59:
--- Quote from: King Trauma on November 06, 2002, 09:14:58 AM ---What are you saying, then? Is this just another post where you talk to hear yourself talk? Your post was not to depend on the government, because america is deteriorating and moral values are low... then I post that with the current government situation, it's very possible to have high moral values... then you post and say america has horrible values. What are you saying?
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Once again. For the third time. I'm saying that Muslims need to be leaders and set examples. We need to be beacons of light for those in the dark. We need to stand out with our unique morals and manners. I won't repeat myself again.
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