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Open letter to AlexG
« on: November 06, 2002, 04:58:36 PM »
Man, there are 2 ppl in this board who ALWAYS hate on me and diss me with no reasons, no matter what. One is you, the other is myrealname (but i'll not talk about him). When ppl attack me, i react. I've talked with Nima about it, this mourning. He always tells me "Leave it. Dont reply. Dont make them continue. They too closed minded to understand your point of view, shit will only make us close the topic and ppl judge you wrong". In fact i got a -20 (or more, actually i dont remember) karma. And i'm not so stupid to write "it's because of ppl from Great Britain" (like another man did. I'll not name him). It's because i make mistakes. Like everybody. And ppl judged them. But I'm like that, i always write what i think. That's my biggest difect, probably. Sometimes to be real is a difect. And sometimes posts are ruined by disses, by STUPID disses, because of THIS reason. But i respect this forum (not really this forum, but ALL the forums. Cause EVERYBODY gotta be free to speak what he wants. That's my mentality), so i've chosed to make the first REAL step by writing this "open" letter to you (to myrealname.. we will see! I think it's a waste of time anyway).

Look.. in this forum i've not dissed you and i'm not dissing you. You started 3 disses from the moment you registrered again as "AG". All against me. I replied. I really dont care about you or Daz (as a real man. I care about Daz the rapper, since i'm a FAN. Yeah, a FAN!). You dont know me, and you, in my opinion, is a lil bit too "arrogant" if you think you know HOW am I and WHO am I. If you got something to say, private message me (or email me, or contact me) and we will talk. But for real, you dont act like a mature man if you start disses without me talking about you or thinking about you.

You got the impression i "hate" Daz? You are wrong! We live in a free world, and everybody can express their opinions. There are good things about Daz, and bad things about Daz. I am not a dickrider (even tho i was the webmaster of www.dpgrecordz.cjb.net when u wasnt still working with Kronik), so if there's something good, i write it. If there's something bad, i write it. You aint so stupid (i'm sure) to think Daz is perfect, so you gotta admit that he did something wrong too, sometimes.

Like Kronik said in your board, some of the news/posts Daz wrote were just to make noise, to let people check the site and the board. To "NAME" Daz. To keep his name alive. Some were even to diss Daz. Daz lied on purpose sometimes. Just to let ppl talk about him. Like Suge did with Death Row after his return. That's a way to make promotion/business, i've not discovered the cold water, i know it. And, like Kronik said, you from DPGRECZ.com did it VER WELL, if this was the purpose. Daz is underground, but ppl is talking about him maybe MORE than Mr.WestCoast Snoop himself! But look.. you gotta understand (and, again, i'm sure you are intelligent enought to think it like that) that when u make a provocation, you gotta expect ppl to react well OR not. OR. (i like to make topics with provocations. But i know ppl will react well OR bad). For example if Daz writes one month that Suge killed Pac by setting him up, the other that he paid a crip to kill him and the other on that he used Pac to protect himself from bullets (that's just an example), ppl will be confused. And it's normal that some will reply by saying "WHAT THE FUCK IS DAZ WRITING?". It's normal that Pac fans will hate on Daz (just check PAC's boards man. Check what ppl thinks about Daz). Man that's normal! And, if you intelligent enought (why not), you'll admit and understand it.

You can be happy or mad. And you can say it in all the ways you want. By saying "Daz your'e wrong", "Daz you's a fool for that", "Daz are you on crack?" (which means Daz are you ok? Not that Daz is litterally smoking crack! Even if he himself wrote that in the DPG forum), "Daz you are right no matter what", "Daz i love you", "Daz you're lying", "Daz the facts are differents", "Daz is the only who's keeping it real", etc..

But you cant think that ONLY GOOD REPLIES are to accept and negative replies means some1 is HATING ON Daz or that some1 is MAKING A WAR AGAINST Daz! Or that there's a set-up. Once, you wrote me to be loyal with Daz. Man i'm loyal with Daz cause i buy his cds (i got them all OGs. And ppl who knows me in this board knows i'm a COLLECTOR of OG cds). But to be loyal doesnt mean to close my eyes and my mind and expecially to close my mouth. You know what i mean?

Our beefs started in a post i made by expressing by doubts about Daz really having legal rights to release "Makaveli & Dillinger" EP. And it was loooooooooooong before the EP went leaked on the net! Remember that? That's where you started to be MAD at me, by writing i cant understand how rap game is from italy, from studying law, from being here, etc.. That's exactly the moment when shit started! That's the mistake, imo. I dont want to talk about contents (even if i was right, about Makaveli & Dillinger. But that's totally another point), but about THE WAY YOU CHOSED TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION. Just cause some1 disagrees with something (in that particular discussion i wrote Daz didnt have rights to release the album IMO -and i was right-, that he lied with ppl -and i was right, about tracks being non-remixed and 100% legit and unleaked-, that to ask 500$ for a cd was insane and a disrespect 2 Pac -and i was right, but that's based on the OPINION of mostly of us in this board and in the free world-, that it was wrong to diss Afeni like that -and i can be right or not about that, but at least i had an opinable point-. I dont think you have to live in Cali and to be a friend of Daz (like you, probably) to express those things or to have the rights to express something. You dont have to be black or yellow, you dont have to study law or be ignorant or from the streetz! You dont have to live in LBC or NYC. You took it like if i was DISSING Daz or like if i wanted to RUINE you (as DPGRECZ) and your IMMAGE (as DPGRECZ). Like i wasnt been loyal to DPG & Daz. I can even understand it, cause your mission is to repp DPG and to do the interests of DPG, but i think u did a mistake back in the days, and that you keep making the same mistake. By dissing me without me even talking about you. By calling me a 2Pac dickrider just cause i repped Pac fans (and i'm one of the really few Pac fans in this board with the balls to repp PAC in a 99,9% Snoop & DPG board). Just go to other boards, man. That's a suggestion. NON-DPG boards. Just go to Tupacboard or MFT board. Just check Hitemup.com site, or Alleyezonme.com site, or programs like Pacshare (topic was ALLEYEZONME.COM HATES DAZ!). Just check Pac boards. I'm not the enemy. I just repp a part of ppl who were/are mad at Daz because of something he did/say. And, like i wrote you before, it's normal if you make provocations to get ppl's attention. It doestn mean all Pac fans hates Daz. Or that I HATE Daz.

To make it a personal war between me & you is totally unprofessional and it doesnt have sense anyway. Cause i really dont know you, i dont give a fuck about you, and you aint even in my remote mind. It's about facts. When famous ppl do something, there'll be fans who will like it no matter what, and other ppl who will comment on it. Daz knows it (ask him). He chosed the fame. Check that Pac track (Fortune & Fame). That's the negative thing about being famous. That ppl will judge you. Fans will judge your product. Your moves. Movies will judge you. Ppl who dont know you will judge you. If you a Pac fan enought, you'll understand it (check Me Against The World, for example. Or Only God Can Judge Me) cause he suffered that too.

Again, to make it like a "personal" war between me & you is wrong. And you are doing it by totally IGNORING contents or the fact that we can discuss about Daz moves without beefing like immature kids. To call me Antonio Corsica (lol u know what that means btw? Corsica is an isle of France written in Italian), to make topics in your DPG board just to diss me, to menace me by saying Daz "knows about me", to write things like "i'm sure you dont have the courage to say those shit in Daz's face".... all those things.. i didnt even replied cause you made it an Alex vs Antonio war. When there aint no war with you. You are NOBODY in this discussion. I like to discuss about Daz (being a fan of him since day1), about his moves. But the fact that you a DPGRECZ.com admin doesnt mean you have to make it personal. That's, like i wrote, UNPROFESSIONAL.

Open your mind and you'll see the other side of the story. One is that ppl will respect and love you. The other is that some ppl (again, check Pac boards) will dislike the things you did. And will comment on them.

A personal war/beef between me and you is the most immature thing we can do. Something that kids can do, not mature men. WE CAN DISAGREE AND DISCUSS ABOUT CONTENTS! ABOUT FACTS! ABOUT OPINIONS! And we can disagree. But to make is so lame like making whole topics to diss me, to start beefs with me not even talking about you, to ruine topics, to talk about Italy or me being italian, to name Daz just to defend yourself, etc... those thing will not let us have a discussion. And in a MESSAGE BOARD i expect to DISCUSS. This will make you an hero for DPG dickriders and a fool for non-DPG dickriders. And it's the opposite with me.

I'm sure you'll think about it and about the other side of the story. Holla.

That's from a Pac fan. That's from a Daz fan.

Antonio.
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2002, 05:17:46 PM »
the fact of the matter is that 99.9% don't really know the 100% truth behind all the shit in the rap game.  We don't really know what happened in the car with pac and suge, and we don't know how many tracks pac and daz really recorded, or we don't know what is real when it comes out of rappers mouths.  Just about every rapper that I have read an interview by has spit some complete bullshit in an interview.  So now I pretty much don't believe anything until I see it.  Don't worry about all this drama shit.  Its not worth your time fighting and arguing about this shit, just let it go.  Let the music speak for the artists.  If the artists put out good albums that you like, than buy them, if not don't buy them.  Who cares how they made it.  I don't give a fuck where daz gets his songs- if he steals them or whatever- as long as they are bangin.  This forum should just be about the music, and not about personal beefs between members that do absolutely no good to anyone.
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2002, 05:28:52 PM »
You are right. But this board (like all the other boards) are not only about music (i mean.. SONGS). I'm not saying its' good, but it's like that. It's a fact (just read the titles of the topics of the main page). Cause we are fans. And if our fav rappers do something, it's pubblicized everywhere. Sites will talk about it, tv's will talk about it, radio's will talk about it. So it's normal to comment on them. For sure nobody but Pac (and Daz) knows the exact number of tracks he recorded with Daz. But that's not the point, you know what i mean? Music cant survive without those discussions, and ppl at DPGRECZ.com knows it very well (cause that was their purpose, and they are doing it very well, like Kronik said. And i agree). But in a discussion there are always 2 sides. That's the point.

To make it 1 person of a side against 1 person of another side is wrong, imo. To make it 1 side vs the other side is cool. Cause there's a discussion and the best opinion will win.

What is the meaning of a message board? Why having a message board if you can only talk about music? What do i have to say about music? "This track is tight!"? or "This track sucks"?. You know what i mean? Just that? We can make a poll for those questions.


Another thing to say is, imo (and, for a strange reason, i gotta agree with AG who posted it in another topic) rap songs are empty those days. There's no message. Tracks like Thugz Mansion or Letter 2 My Unborn, etc.. are RARE. Tracks who talks about something. AG knew exactly the point (what i'm talking about). So it's always more difficult to talk ONLY about songs. What do you want us to say? "Oh.. this Dre beat is tight! And Nate is still making tracks for bitches"? Tracks are empty! When there're tracks that will make you think about something, we can have a lot of discussions. But where are those tracks? We only talk about the beats and the flow in this board (and that's not a diss. Its' like that for the reasons i wrote!). Only comments we can make are "wack beat" or "Snoop's flow is coming back!". But what was been the last REAL topic/discussion about the content of a rap track? About the message? What was been the last discussion we've had about a problem revealed us by a rap song?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2002, 05:38:15 PM by AntoCorsa »
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2002, 05:41:31 PM »
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Quote from: AntoCorsa  Cause i really dont know you, i dont give a fuck about you, and you aint even in my remote mind.

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then answer this question, why did you create his thread IF you what you said is true. i understand you voicing your oppinion and all thats what the forum is for, but you lied when you say you dont care cause you would have just left it alone and let things go
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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2002, 06:03:59 PM »
Man.. Obviously if you take just 1 phrase from a very long topic, you'll have a different meaning for it. You cant cut it from the contest. When i wrote that i dont care about him, i mean that i dont care about him "as a person". So it is stupid to start a "personal" war. I care about opinions. About facts. About discussions. Not about AlexG as a man (cause when i live my real life, i dont think about him, since i dont know him, like i dont know you. And like you dont know me). That's the meaning. I wrote it to explain why i dont like personal beefs, not to diss. When they are funny (like the one i got with myrealname) that's one thing, but when they aint funny no more and they ruine a board, they aint cool. I think there're no reasons to beef over a pc by dissing the others without even knowing them. You know what i mean? I dont give a fuck about you all. But i care about your opinions, if you wanna have a discussion.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2002, 06:06:19 PM by AntoCorsa »
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2002, 07:26:28 PM »
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Re:Open letter to AlexG
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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2002, 08:42:07 PM »
i know this may upset some people, but believe it or not, the world does not revolve around this forum.  tight forum and dubcnn, however we don't make crucial life decisions based on this forum.  Antionio, u're upset, however Alex G is just one person out of 6 billion that inhabit the planet.  please get over it, and u and myrealname need to stop bitching at each other, ruins every topic u 2 step foot in
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2002, 08:56:29 PM »
All I know is, you wrote like a fucking five page essay on beef you have with some dude you never met .. I can't even get 3 page school papers done lol
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2002, 09:17:16 PM »
antonia, we all dont really give a shit about what u have to say, obviously u have nothing better to do then write a long ass dissertation, complete with your fucked up english on why you do what you do.  bottom line is you bug the FUCKING shit out of me....like no other person i have ever come across, this problem will be over when you do 1 of 2 things or both... (1) you learn to post shit that isnt so fucking retarded (2) you leave...those are your options to remedying this situation...

btw - there are alot of people who have my back on this, so you really need to check yourself on whether or not you fit in here.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2002, 09:18:10 PM by ag »
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2002, 09:32:45 PM »
Man, there are 2 ppl in this board who ALWAYS hate on me and diss me with no reasons, no matter what. One is you, the other is myrealname (but i'll not talk about him). When ppl attack me, i react. I've talked with Nima about it, this mourning. He always tells me "Leave it. Dont reply. Dont make them continue. They too closed minded to understand your point of view, shit will only make us close the topic and ppl judge you wrong". In fact i got a -20 (or more, actually i dont remember) karma. And i'm not so stupid to write "it's because of ppl from Great Britain" (like another man did. I'll not name him). It's because i make mistakes. Like everybody. And ppl judged them. But I'm like that, i always write what i think. That's my biggest difect, probably. Sometimes to be real is a difect. And sometimes posts are ruined by disses, by STUPID disses, because of THIS reason. But i respect this forum (not really this forum, but ALL the forums. Cause EVERYBODY gotta be free to speak what he wants. That's my mentality), so i've chosed to make the first REAL step by writing this "open" letter to you (to myrealname.. we will see! I think it's a waste of time anyway).

Look.. in this forum i've not dissed you and i'm not dissing you. You started 3 disses from the moment you registrered again as "AG". All against me. I replied. I really dont care about you or Daz (as a real man. I care about Daz the rapper, since i'm a FAN. Yeah, a FAN!). You dont know me, and you, in my opinion, is a lil bit too "arrogant" if you think you know HOW am I and WHO am I. If you got something to say, private message me (or email me, or contact me) and we will talk. But for real, you dont act like a mature man if you start disses without me talking about you or thinking about you.

You got the impression i "hate" Daz? You are wrong! We live in a free world, and everybody can express their opinions. There are good things about Daz, and bad things about Daz. I am not a dickrider (even tho i was the webmaster of www.dpgrecordz.cjb.net when u wasnt still working with Kronik), so if there's something good, i write it. If there's something bad, i write it. You aint so stupid (i'm sure) to think Daz is perfect, so you gotta admit that he did something wrong too, sometimes.

Like Kronik said in your board, some of the news/posts Daz wrote were just to make noise, to let people check the site and the board. To "NAME" Daz. To keep his name alive. Some were even to diss Daz. Daz lied on purpose sometimes. Just to let ppl talk about him. Like Suge did with Death Row after his return. That's a way to make promotion/business, i've not discovered the cold water, i know it. And, like Kronik said, you from DPGRECZ.com did it VER WELL, if this was the purpose. Daz is underground, but ppl is talking about him maybe MORE than Mr.WestCoast Snoop himself! But look.. you gotta understand (and, again, i'm sure you are intelligent enought to think it like that) that when u make a provocation, you gotta expect ppl to react well OR not. OR. (i like to make topics with provocations. But i know ppl will react well OR bad). For example if Daz writes one month that Suge killed Pac by setting him up, the other that he paid a crip to kill him and the other on that he used Pac to protect himself from bullets (that's just an example), ppl will be confused. And it's normal that some will reply by saying "WHAT THE FUCK IS DAZ WRITING?". It's normal that Pac fans will hate on Daz (just check PAC's boards man. Check what ppl thinks about Daz). Man that's normal! And, if you intelligent enought (why not), you'll admit and understand it.

You can be happy or mad. And you can say it in all the ways you want. By saying "Daz your'e wrong", "Daz you's a fool for that", "Daz are you on crack?" (which means Daz are you ok? Not that Daz is litterally smoking crack! Even if he himself wrote that in the DPG forum), "Daz you are right no matter what", "Daz i love you", "Daz you're lying", "Daz the facts are differents", "Daz is the only who's keeping it real", etc..

But you cant think that ONLY GOOD REPLIES are to accept and negative replies means some1 is HATING ON Daz or that some1 is MAKING A WAR AGAINST Daz! Or that there's a set-up. Once, you wrote me to be loyal with Daz. Man i'm loyal with Daz cause i buy his cds (i got them all OGs. And ppl who knows me in this board knows i'm a COLLECTOR of OG cds). But to be loyal doesnt mean to close my eyes and my mind and expecially to close my mouth. You know what i mean?

Our beefs started in a post i made by expressing by doubts about Daz really having legal rights to release "Makaveli & Dillinger" EP. And it was loooooooooooong before the EP went leaked on the net! Remember that? That's where you started to be MAD at me, by writing i cant understand how rap game is from italy, from studying law, from being here, etc.. That's exactly the moment when shit started! That's the mistake, imo. I dont want to talk about contents (even if i was right, about Makaveli & Dillinger. But that's totally another point), but about THE WAY YOU CHOSED TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION. Just cause some1 disagrees with something (in that particular discussion i wrote Daz didnt have rights to release the album IMO -and i was right-, that he lied with ppl -and i was right, about tracks being non-remixed and 100% legit and unleaked-, that to ask 500$ for a cd was insane and a disrespect 2 Pac -and i was right, but that's based on the OPINION of mostly of us in this board and in the free world-, that it was wrong to diss Afeni like that -and i can be right or not about that, but at least i had an opinable point-. I dont think you have to live in Cali and to be a friend of Daz (like you, probably) to express those things or to have the rights to express something. You dont have to be black or yellow, you dont have to study law or be ignorant or from the streetz! You dont have to live in LBC or NYC. You took it like if i was DISSING Daz or like if i wanted to RUINE you (as DPGRECZ) and your IMMAGE (as DPGRECZ). Like i wasnt been loyal to DPG & Daz. I can even understand it, cause your mission is to repp DPG and to do the interests of DPG, but i think u did a mistake back in the days, and that you keep making the same mistake. By dissing me without me even talking about you. By calling me a 2Pac dickrider just cause i repped Pac fans (and i'm one of the really few Pac fans in this board with the balls to repp PAC in a 99,9% Snoop & DPG board). Just go to other boards, man. That's a suggestion. NON-DPG boards. Just go to Tupacboard or MFT board. Just check Hitemup.com site, or Alleyezonme.com site, or programs like Pacshare (topic was ALLEYEZONME.COM HATES DAZ!). Just check Pac boards. I'm not the enemy. I just repp a part of ppl who were/are mad at Daz because of something he did/say. And, like i wrote you before, it's normal if you make provocations to get ppl's attention. It doestn mean all Pac fans hates Daz. Or that I HATE Daz.

To make it a personal war between me & you is totally unprofessional and it doesnt have sense anyway. Cause i really dont know you, i dont give a fuck about you, and you aint even in my remote mind. It's about facts. When famous ppl do something, there'll be fans who will like it no matter what, and other ppl who will comment on it. Daz knows it (ask him). He chosed the fame. Check that Pac track (Fortune & Fame). That's the negative thing about being famous. That ppl will judge you. Fans will judge your product. Your moves. Movies will judge you. Ppl who dont know you will judge you. If you a Pac fan enought, you'll understand it (check Me Against The World, for example. Or Only God Can Judge Me) cause he suffered that too.

Again, to make it like a "personal" war between me & you is wrong. And you are doing it by totally IGNORING contents or the fact that we can discuss about Daz moves without beefing like immature kids. To call me Antonio Corsica (lol u know what that means btw? Corsica is an isle of France written in Italian), to make topics in your DPG board just to diss me, to menace me by saying Daz "knows about me", to write things like "i'm sure you dont have the courage to say those shit in Daz's face".... all those things.. i didnt even replied cause you made it an Alex vs Antonio war. When there aint no war with you. You are NOBODY in this discussion. I like to discuss about Daz (being a fan of him since day1), about his moves. But the fact that you a DPGRECZ.com admin doesnt mean you have to make it personal. That's, like i wrote, UNPROFESSIONAL.

Open your mind and you'll see the other side of the story. One is that ppl will respect and love you. The other is that some ppl (again, check Pac boards) will dislike the things you did. And will comment on them.

A personal war/beef between me and you is the most immature thing we can do. Something that kids can do, not mature men. WE CAN DISAGREE AND DISCUSS ABOUT CONTENTS! ABOUT FACTS! ABOUT OPINIONS! And we can disagree. But to make is so lame like making whole topics to diss me, to start beefs with me not even talking about you, to ruine topics, to talk about Italy or me being italian, to name Daz just to defend yourself, etc... those thing will not let us have a discussion. And in a MESSAGE BOARD i expect to DISCUSS. This will make you an hero for DPG dickriders and a fool for non-DPG dickriders. And it's the opposite with me.

I'm sure you'll think about it and about the other side of the story. Holla.

That's from a Pac fan. That's from a Daz fan.

Antonio.

If I ever become as lame as Antonio and write an entire essay about how somebody on the internet hurts my feelings and makes me sad..PLEASSE....PLEASE ..PLEASE blow my fucking brains out cos Id have no reason for living.
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2002, 09:33:18 PM »
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2002, 10:12:00 PM »
I just had cyber sex

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2002, 10:22:15 PM »
It's just an internet forum man, get a fucking life!!! And stop bitching. I'm out.  8)
 

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Re:Open letter to AlexG
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2002, 10:25:50 PM »
please move this to the anything goes...