CDQ: Snoop Doggy Dogg - O.G. (ft. Nate Dogg) (Original Version) (Lost Sessions)

[JohnnyL]

lol, you can get about 40-45 percent of the album already. just google...

these trax are all available...
1. Soldier Story (Intro)
2. Doggystyle (Produced By Dr. Dre) (background vocals by George Clinton &
Jewell)
3. Fallin' Asleep On Death Row (Produced By Dr. Dre)
5. Hoez (feat Dogg Pound)
6. O.G. (Original Version) (feat Nate Dogg)
7. Keep It Real Dogg
17. Once Again (Best Buy Bonus)

Yeah.  But isn't the good quality version of "Doggystyle" that's available right now only about 2 and a half minutes long while the album version is supposed to be over 5 minutes long?  I mean, I see what you're saying, but I think having the full length cdq version of "Doggystyle" is a major selling point to a lot of people on here.

[cheesefry]

Propz Nima

Stop complain y'all - just be happy you'll hearing this shit

if this was a bootleg release then maybe, but this is a retail release by people who have access to the original masters.  there is absolutely no reason why these songs should be presented in such low quality.  studio time with a competent engineer usually only runs $50 to $150 an hour, so for a few grand the whole album could have been done so much better.

sorry but if the album is 1) poorly mixed and 2) nothing but loops without breaks or variation i think people will seek downloads instead of purchases.

bottom line is that death row is now wide awake, but the legacy and reputation of death row is being tarnished by such sloppy releases.  even the cover of this release looks thrown together.  gotta laugh when even the weakest cover from death row's old singles easily trump this comeback album's cover. 

[Matty]

Propz Nima

Stop complain y'all - just be happy you'll hearing this shit

if this was a bootleg release then maybe, but this is a retail release by people who have access to the original masters.  there is absolutely no reason why these songs should be presented in such low quality.  studio time with a competent engineer usually only runs $50 to $150 an hour, so for a few grand the whole album could have been done so much better.

sorry but if the album is 1) poorly mixed and 2) nothing but loops without breaks or variation i think people will seek downloads instead of purchases.

bottom line is that death row is now wide awake, but the legacy and reputation of death row is being tarnished by such sloppy releases.  even the cover of this release looks thrown together.  gotta laugh when even the weakest cover from death row's old singles easily trump this comeback album's cover. 

this is what it is. notice the idiots who are getting butthurt over the criticisms aren't offering any real defense expect the regular be grateful stop being a hater etc. lame.

[Zeus]

I  just listened to keep it real from the lost sessions and keep it real from snoops greatest hits back to back, no noticeable difference in quality.

[Dre-Day]

i'm sure Wideawake has more Dre produced Snoop Doggy Dogg songs, no?

[cheesefry]

i'm sure Wideawake has more Dre produced Snoop Doggy Dogg songs, no?

hope so.  knowing how much of a perfectionist dre is i bet he sees what was done to the chronic and now these songs as a slap in the face.  i would love to hear new death row dre material but how could be be on board with this??

[captaincornrow]

I just read an article that says Lara Lavi is remodeling the WideAwake offices and putting in a gourmet kitchen. She seems good at spending money, just not for what's important. Uh....maybe adequate mastering, packaging, and promotion are more important than you being able to stuff your already ample face with fish tacos. So far this company has done nothing to impress. They'll pump out another substandard product and some of you will go running to the store with your money in your hand begging to be handed a pile of crap. It's hardly a surprise that people like Dr. Dre and Snoop have had little to do with these releases. Maybe this one will break a thousand in sales.....maybe. It's obvious that the Death Row assets have fallen into the wrong hands.

[JohnnyL]

Propz Nima

Stop complain y'all - just be happy you'll hearing this shit

if this was a bootleg release then maybe, but this is a retail release by people who have access to the original masters.  there is absolutely no reason why these songs should be presented in such low quality.  studio time with a competent engineer usually only runs $50 to $150 an hour, so for a few grand the whole album could have been done so much better.

sorry but if the album is 1) poorly mixed and 2) nothing but loops without breaks or variation i think people will seek downloads instead of purchases.

bottom line is that death row is now wide awake, but the legacy and reputation of death row is being tarnished by such sloppy releases.  even the cover of this release looks thrown together.  gotta laugh when even the weakest cover from death row's old singles easily trump this comeback album's cover. 

this is what it is. notice the idiots who are getting butthurt over the criticisms aren't offering any real defense expect the regular be grateful stop being a hater etc. lame.

It seems to me that the poor mixing to these releases is a legitimate criticism.  However, most of the time I don't have a good enough ear for mixing that it really detracts much from my enjoyment of these tracks.  For those that it bothers, I can understand it.  For me, in most cases, it's not a big deal.  Occasionally if the poor mixing is really egregious, I'll pick up on it and it might bother me.  But otherwise, I think I tend not to notice a lot of bad mixing.  Regarding "The Lost Sessions," I've heard a few people say that some of the songs sound like they've been properly mixed, and others sound pretty awful.  Having only heard a few tracks from it, I have to say that nothing really stood out to me.  But if the overall consensus is that the mixing is bad on some of the songs but not others, is it possible that John Payne was still responsible for mixing and remastering some of the songs on here?  I know he was supposed to be taken off of mixing duties after Lara Lavi heard the end result of the mixing he did on "The Chronic Relit" bonus tracks.  Maybe the decision to use someone else wasn't made until the mixing on this project had already been partly completely.

[woof]

john payne was never supposed to be taken off of mixing duties, where did u read that??

he was taken off of the mastering process

mixing and mastering are 2 different things

[cheesefry]

john payne was never supposed to be taken off of mixing duties, where did u read that??

he was taken off of the mastering process

mixing and mastering are 2 different things

someone needs to tell him to wiki what a break is

[JohnnyL]

john payne was never supposed to be taken off of mixing duties, where did u read that??

he was taken off of the mastering process

mixing and mastering are 2 different things

I know they're two different things.  I thought I read it in the interview that was conducted with Lara Lavi on this site.  Maybe I'm not remembering it correctly then.  I thought the complaint that most people had was that both the mixing and mastering were sub par.  But if you know that to not be accurate, maybe you can further explain.

***I went back and found it.*** 

Here is the direct quote:

"We really wanted to make it a special tribute to Dr. Dre. John Payne, who was a part of the very early experience of Death Row, was responsible for all the production, song choice, and handling all the mixing and mastering. He only did that for this first release, it’s company policy that all future releases with go to “Big Bass” Brian and Bernie Grundman."

You can see she refers to both the mixing and the mastering.  Now maybe her intention was only to indicate that he was taken off mastering.  But you can see by the way it was worded, why I inferred that he was taken off both mixing and mastering duties.

[woof]

ah ok but she might be confused a little bit because Brian Gardner is a mastering engineer only and he doesn't do mixing.