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Titans @ Patriiots gamethread
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 22, 2009, 05:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 22, 2009, 02:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson on October 22, 2009, 02:24:29 PM ---who lead the league in home runs more than the Babe?
Babe Ruth hit a record 29 homeruns in the DEAD BALL ERA - if you hit 15 back then you were a "slugger"
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lol, the competiton today is so much better than it was in the 1920's, it's barely comparable.
how many players back then even hit more than 35 homeruns in a season?
he had nobody pitching to him & the "somebodies" who were pitching to him were throwing 18 straight innings in back to back double headers lol.
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So all the batters were so bad in the 20s that of all the 18 straight inning pitchers only the Babe could hit the ball long? Give me a break. You're the one who likes facts. Here's a fact for you. Bonds hit an HR ver 13 at bats. Babe hit 1 every 12 at bats. No ifs, no buts, no speculation. Babe Ruth is a better homerun hitter because he hit a homerun more often than Bonds did. We could speculate on pitchers all day and believe me I have theoretical arguments up the wazoo, but you like stats and facts and the fact is that Ruth is a better HR hitter than Bonds, because when Bonds made it to Ruth at bat number he had 150 less homeruns than Ruth. So if you bet on Bonds in a game to hit a homerun and I bet on Ruth, at the end of each career I'd have more money because Ruth hit more homeruns and more often.
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alright, we'll just ignore the fact Ruth didn't have to face a left hander whose purpose of getting a contract is to get left handed batters out in the 7th & 8th.
Ruth's competiton has to be a factor here & like i was saying Hack has been posting stats of the games best at their peaks & a lot have averaged as many or more than him; actually surprising.
Lunatic:
^But Brady's "competition" of an uncovering Titans secondary doesn't play a factor? Shallow served u homie on that "average home runs per bat" and with u still arguing against that, your 100% contradicting yourself.
U the homie, but I call it as I see it.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Lunatic 63 on October 22, 2009, 06:15:38 PM ---^But Brady's "competition" of an uncovering Titans secondary doesn't play a factor? Shallow served u homie on that "average home runs per bat" and with u still arguing against that, your 100% contradicting yourself.
U the homie, but I call it as I see it.
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i meant more along the lines of that Baseball was still not at it's peak in terms of players back then, but i understand.
i've never said Brady was better, where is this statement coming from? i never said it lol.
what i HAVE said is that "I'm not saying Brady is better than any of the great HOFer's, I am not saying Brady is better than Peyton, but Brady is one of the the greats."
Tom Brady throws for a high number of touchdowns, year in and year out, has the most in a single season & has 3 rings on teams he has lead. because Peyton has a stronger & more accurate arm that puts him 138 levels above Brady? i don't know, not in my opinion; scoring is scoring.
then Babe Ruth was shown by Hack to have hit less HRs per season than McGuire; i will give him the option to pick either who hits more per season or more all time; which i could personally care less about because that's not even the discussion at hand here but more of getting off into a tangent to argue for a view which i hope one day he realizes isn't convincing me of changing my opinion on Brady lol.
& even though this is the Pats/Titans gamethread, it's gotten far off that topic & it's barely about this weeks game anymore, more like Brady's career & i mean, you can tell, Babe Ruth somehow go involved lol.
& this guy lives for the argument, on a serious note, have you ever seen him in a thread agreeing or co-signing something somebody says?
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 22, 2009, 06:09:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on October 22, 2009, 05:02:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 22, 2009, 02:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson on October 22, 2009, 02:24:29 PM ---who lead the league in home runs more than the Babe?
Babe Ruth hit a record 29 homeruns in the DEAD BALL ERA - if you hit 15 back then you were a "slugger"
--- End quote ---
lol, the competiton today is so much better than it was in the 1920's, it's barely comparable.
how many players back then even hit more than 35 homeruns in a season?
he had nobody pitching to him & the "somebodies" who were pitching to him were throwing 18 straight innings in back to back double headers lol.
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So all the batters were so bad in the 20s that of all the 18 straight inning pitchers only the Babe could hit the ball long? Give me a break. You're the one who likes facts. Here's a fact for you. Bonds hit an HR ver 13 at bats. Babe hit 1 every 12 at bats. No ifs, no buts, no speculation. Babe Ruth is a better homerun hitter because he hit a homerun more often than Bonds did. We could speculate on pitchers all day and believe me I have theoretical arguments up the wazoo, but you like stats and facts and the fact is that Ruth is a better HR hitter than Bonds, because when Bonds made it to Ruth at bat number he had 150 less homeruns than Ruth. So if you bet on Bonds in a game to hit a homerun and I bet on Ruth, at the end of each career I'd have more money because Ruth hit more homeruns and more often.
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alright, we'll just ignore the fact Ruth didn't have to face a left hander whose purpose of getting a contract is to get left handed batters out in the 7th & 8th.
Ruth's competiton has to be a factor here & like i was saying Hack has been posting stats of the games best at their peaks & a lot have averaged as many or more than him; actually surprising.
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We'll also ignore the fact that half of the Babe's games were played in a stadium that was 490 up the middle, 460 left center, and 425 right center. That he played with inferior balls, inferior bats, and inferior training schedules. He is the best homerun hitter. Period. Just like the guy with the most hits isn't the best hitter, the guy with the most homeruns isn't the best homerun hitter. Unless of course you want to turn this into a Ty Cobb vs Pete Rose debate.
Forgive but I can't think of the left hander you speak of. I can think of my man Lefty Grove though. He was great.
As for Brady being one of the greats. I have no doubt he'll be remembered as such. I just don't think he would have been if he ended up on the Bills in 2000. Where I see Peyton being remembered at the very least as good as his father. The difference between the two is that I think Peyton would be one of those QBs that despite his team never winning, everyone and their mother in that organization would know that it wasn't because of QB play and no matter what, they'd keep him. Where if Brady was on a team that kept losing, he'd have been dropped. That's my assessment. It's all speculation and I can't prove any of it, but just based on the way he plays, my understanding of the Erhardt - Perkins offensive system, and my prediction of the success of Kyle Orton, and Matt Cassel under that system, that I've come to that personal conclusion. You'll still have a great life if you don't ever adopt that theory, but just understand that I'm forever sticking to it. And nothing short of Brady joining the Titans tomorrow and making them win 10 straight game and a wild card spot will change that. I will also take a cheap shot at Brady every time I see the opportunity too. You shouldn't take it personally. I just like ragging on him.
Chamillitary Click:
^so you're upset & dislike the fact that Brady gets so much praise, but you don't think that he will be remembered as a great?
Lefty Grove the starter? who faced Babe Ruth 90% of games at least once?
& i will ignore that because he was playing with inferior pitching too.
lol, i admit the guy is the best baseball player of all time, just not the greatest HR hitter & it's just not enough lmao.
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