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Quote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this lolthis isnt a sticky worthy topic.
Quote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this
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Quote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 06:40:52 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this Well you hadn't responded so I thought maybe you forgot about it. I'm just trying to help here.sorry... lolI figure it like this, Jay might be part of the Illuminati, I'm not sold on Nas being a member. I brought this out for discussion, and now I wonder if I should merge the threads of this and virtuoso together because they are touching on the same thing. This whole Freemason thing is very interesting to discuss, especially since this is a Hip-Hop board. Now I still wonder, if 'Pac wasn't part of it all, why is he the highest selling artist in Hip-Hop? I mean straight up his bigger than Jay-Z or any other "Illuminati" rapper could ever be. Did they just let him, because they knew he wasn't a threat no more, why not silence him completely and never release his music again? Or is messing up his work a way to get back at him?
Quote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this Well you hadn't responded so I thought maybe you forgot about it. I'm just trying to help here.
Quote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:53:04 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 06:40:52 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this Well you hadn't responded so I thought maybe you forgot about it. I'm just trying to help here.sorry... lolI figure it like this, Jay might be part of the Illuminati, I'm not sold on Nas being a member. I brought this out for discussion, and now I wonder if I should merge the threads of this and virtuoso together because they are touching on the same thing. This whole Freemason thing is very interesting to discuss, especially since this is a Hip-Hop board. Now I still wonder, if 'Pac wasn't part of it all, why is he the highest selling artist in Hip-Hop? I mean straight up his bigger than Jay-Z or any other "Illuminati" rapper could ever be. Did they just let him, because they knew he wasn't a threat no more, why not silence him completely and never release his music again? Or is messing up his work a way to get back at him?Nas isn't down with that shit...listen to "Nigger" album, he talks about William Cooper, Farrakhan, destroys Fox News, has Dead Prez, the list goes on. Why do you think that album got so much heat to try and stop it when it dropped? Cuz of the title? No way, cuz of the content. Easily one of Nas' best albums.Pac was absolutely not a part of it. His last album before he was murdered was called "Killuminati". He was talking about taking them down. Afeni was very hooked into the Panther movement and 5% Nation, she was an enemy of the state, labeled a terrorist and was pregnant with Pac in jail. Pac was a HUGE threat to the establishment. That's why he died, not cuz of Orlando Anderson or whoever u wanna think.And I'm happy to discuss this with you, but you and I both know you made this thread to mock things I say and it basically blew up in your face. So I mean, keep mocking but you're looking like an ass. Peace.
If that's the case then why are there are countless examples of Jay-Z using masonic hand shakes?
Quote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this this isnt a sticky worthy topic.
Quote from: Wykid "1NER" on November 15, 2009, 07:08:05 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this lolthis isnt a sticky worthy topic. I know... that's why I was confused it was even bumped.
Quote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 16, 2009, 07:49:18 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:53:04 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 06:40:52 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this Well you hadn't responded so I thought maybe you forgot about it. I'm just trying to help here.sorry... lolI figure it like this, Jay might be part of the Illuminati, I'm not sold on Nas being a member. I brought this out for discussion, and now I wonder if I should merge the threads of this and virtuoso together because they are touching on the same thing. This whole Freemason thing is very interesting to discuss, especially since this is a Hip-Hop board. Now I still wonder, if 'Pac wasn't part of it all, why is he the highest selling artist in Hip-Hop? I mean straight up his bigger than Jay-Z or any other "Illuminati" rapper could ever be. Did they just let him, because they knew he wasn't a threat no more, why not silence him completely and never release his music again? Or is messing up his work a way to get back at him?Nas isn't down with that shit...listen to "Nigger" album, he talks about William Cooper, Farrakhan, destroys Fox News, has Dead Prez, the list goes on. Why do you think that album got so much heat to try and stop it when it dropped? Cuz of the title? No way, cuz of the content. Easily one of Nas' best albums.Pac was absolutely not a part of it. His last album before he was murdered was called "Killuminati". He was talking about taking them down. Afeni was very hooked into the Panther movement and 5% Nation, she was an enemy of the state, labeled a terrorist and was pregnant with Pac in jail. Pac was a HUGE threat to the establishment. That's why he died, not cuz of Orlando Anderson or whoever u wanna think.And I'm happy to discuss this with you, but you and I both know you made this thread to mock things I say and it basically blew up in your face. So I mean, keep mocking but you're looking like an ass. Peace.Mocking??? LMFAOStraight up, I saw a friend on facebook point it out, and she was someone who is completely clueless to this, but she saw a video on Youtube that proved Jay-Z worshiped the Devil. She posted the video and I knew I could not have a good conversation with her about what she was missing with the Freemason talk, so I brought it to a place I knew I could talk to people that know something. I don't mean it to mock you. I just wanted to have some opinion from people that know something. Now I'll be honest, after you bumped the threat, that was mocking, 'cause I was confused why you bumped it, but it's all good. It is what it is.
These are interesting threads and re the thread I started, I am asking from the point of view of someone who is trying to keep an open mind about these things and this particular question is to Jrome although M Dogg and others feel free to throw your thoughts in to....If Nas is absolutely not a part of this shit, i.e. isn't a freemason, then why is it that when we look at Jay-Z using an obvious triangle we suspect that hmmm is he a mason? and yet Nas credits himself with that idea for Jay-Z "gave you a style for you to run with" at which point he holds up the pyramid i mean err the diamond lol. As for 2 pac being a part of this, I think again you raise a good point M Dogg but my take on it is maybe he was never a part of it but chose to look the other way but then of course you see the many interviews he conducted in his later years (in rap) and it was apparent he was becoming very outspoken. Maybe at that point he decided to make a stand and due to that stand, he was silenced before he could become an influential voice. Ironically of course he is more popular than ever but of course that's through his music, he isn't hear anymore to represent his own views. I would guess that a lot of rappers who do display questionable art work and "strange videos" have very little creative control in fact they probably have no control but make the decision to say fuck it, hear no evil, see no evil just make my money and leave.
Triangles and pyramids are just awesome. Also some black people (Black Israelites) talk about building the pyramids as slaves, and were also Pharoahs so it is a nod to that aswell. "Israelite books we both crooks, true god son, get it on word is bond"Also the 5% Nation, where members refer to themselves as Gods and Earths.Jay-Hova = JehovahIf we look at Nas and Jay they both get their influences from these groups and movements, not Masonry.Although there are commonalities in all these fraternal organisations, like 5 percenters talk about the Universal God, a similar concept to the Masonic conception of God, and with the use of numerology and claims to ancient lineage, there are also big differences in terms of culture, organisation and demographic. Also people may be influenced and take things from suich groups such as symbols, etc but dosn't mean you are necessarily an orthodox member of any such group, you may be the type of person like a sponge who soaks up knowledge and influence. Like RZA was originally a 5 percenter, nowadays he is a bit of everything apparently, he went to Wu Shu mountain in China and also became a real honourary Abbot for his sevices to the Shaolin.
Do you know who else is really bad with freemason/luciferian symbolism? Lady Gaga. She either is well read on occult subjects or her rise to fame was to display these symbols.
Quote from: M Dogg on November 16, 2009, 09:33:54 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 16, 2009, 07:49:18 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:53:04 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 06:40:52 PMQuote from: M Dogg on November 15, 2009, 06:13:46 PMQuote from: 50 Gold 60 Platinum on November 15, 2009, 04:52:48 PMbbbbbumpshould I sticky this Well you hadn't responded so I thought maybe you forgot about it. I'm just trying to help here.sorry... lolI figure it like this, Jay might be part of the Illuminati, I'm not sold on Nas being a member. I brought this out for discussion, and now I wonder if I should merge the threads of this and virtuoso together because they are touching on the same thing. This whole Freemason thing is very interesting to discuss, especially since this is a Hip-Hop board. Now I still wonder, if 'Pac wasn't part of it all, why is he the highest selling artist in Hip-Hop? I mean straight up his bigger than Jay-Z or any other "Illuminati" rapper could ever be. Did they just let him, because they knew he wasn't a threat no more, why not silence him completely and never release his music again? Or is messing up his work a way to get back at him?Nas isn't down with that shit...listen to "Nigger" album, he talks about William Cooper, Farrakhan, destroys Fox News, has Dead Prez, the list goes on. Why do you think that album got so much heat to try and stop it when it dropped? Cuz of the title? No way, cuz of the content. Easily one of Nas' best albums.Pac was absolutely not a part of it. His last album before he was murdered was called "Killuminati". He was talking about taking them down. Afeni was very hooked into the Panther movement and 5% Nation, she was an enemy of the state, labeled a terrorist and was pregnant with Pac in jail. Pac was a HUGE threat to the establishment. That's why he died, not cuz of Orlando Anderson or whoever u wanna think.And I'm happy to discuss this with you, but you and I both know you made this thread to mock things I say and it basically blew up in your face. So I mean, keep mocking but you're looking like an ass. Peace.Mocking??? LMFAOStraight up, I saw a friend on facebook point it out, and she was someone who is completely clueless to this, but she saw a video on Youtube that proved Jay-Z worshiped the Devil. She posted the video and I knew I could not have a good conversation with her about what she was missing with the Freemason talk, so I brought it to a place I knew I could talk to people that know something. I don't mean it to mock you. I just wanted to have some opinion from people that know something. Now I'll be honest, after you bumped the threat, that was mocking, 'cause I was confused why you bumped it, but it's all good. It is what it is.lol, whatever. "Tell them niggaz u roll with whatever u want, but u and i know what's goin on". U have straight mocked me on this illuminati shit for a minute. All the way down to your sig bruh. Don't front. You're lucky I really couldn't give a fuck less or I'd expose u on all that...But now you're starting to the legitimacy and you're tryin to play it off. You terry cloth, that means u very soft.