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Queen Sikotic got published?
... you believe so strongly in evolution (without any real backings ...
Taking into account the state of scientific research at the time as well as of the requirements of theology, the encyclical Humani Generis considered the doctrine of "evolutionism" a serious hypothesis, worthy of investigation and in-depth study equal to that of the opposing hypothesis. Pius XII added two methodological conditions: that this opinion should not be adopted as though it were a certain, proven doctrine and as though one could totally prescind from revelation with regard to the questions it raises. He also spelled out the condition on which this opinion would be compatible with the Christian faith, a point to which I will return. Today, almost half a century after the publication of the encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. [Aujourdhui, près dun demi-siècle après la parution de l'encyclique, de nouvelles connaissances conduisent à reconnaitre dans la théorie de l'évolution plus qu'une hypothèse.] It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favor of this theory.What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology. A theory is a metascientific elaboration, distinct from the results of observation but consistent with them. By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory's validity depends on whether or not it can be verified; it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.Furthermore, while the formulation of a theory like that of evolution complies with the need for consistency with the observed data, it borrows certain notions from natural philosophy.
People who try to turn evolution vs. creation into some kind of retarded east coast vs. west coast beef when the idea of evolution doesn't even support or hurt religion are even worse and should be treated accordingly.
Quote from: Sikotic on November 30, 2009, 04:58:47 PMPeople who try to turn evolution vs. creation into some kind of retarded east coast vs. west coast beef when the idea of evolution doesn't even support or hurt religion are even worse and should be treated accordingly.The first setence is outright harsh. What happened to "respecting other people's beliefs"? Should only religious believers be held to that standard? Props to you (for the second sentence) and MDogg for speaking the truth.
Well I guess I got into something else here, but I will say that the more I learn about evolution, the more I am led to believe that there is something that created this. Things are almost too complex to insist that it "just happened". Now I don't think whatever created everything is some church's idea of God, but I think there is someone/thing that is responsible.
Quote from: the ghost on November 30, 2009, 03:26:23 PMWell I guess I got into something else here, but I will say that the more I learn about evolution, the more I am led to believe that there is something that created this. Things are almost too complex to insist that it "just happened". Now I don't think whatever created everything is some church's idea of God, but I think there is someone/thing that is responsible.Real fuckin' got damn talk.And who don't agree wit evolution?? We don't believe we EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS. How Christians reject the idea of advancing? We know we evolve. Look at fuckin' race got damn it. Evolution in the context of 'ape to man' is what we reject. In THAT context of evolution.
Quote from: QuietTruth on November 30, 2009, 05:24:01 PMQuote from: the ghost on November 30, 2009, 03:26:23 PMWell I guess I got into something else here, but I will say that the more I learn about evolution, the more I am led to believe that there is something that created this. Things are almost too complex to insist that it "just happened". Now I don't think whatever created everything is some church's idea of God, but I think there is someone/thing that is responsible.Real fuckin' got damn talk.And who don't agree wit evolution?? We don't believe we EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS. How Christians reject the idea of advancing? We know we evolve. Look at fuckin' race got damn it. Evolution in the context of 'ape to man' is what we reject. In THAT context of evolution.no one says we evolved from apes. Its that we evolved from a common ancestor.also, monkey isn't the same as ape.
Aight, Technical Timothy
Quote from: rapsodie, the troll prince on November 30, 2009, 06:14:22 PMQuote from: QuietTruth on November 30, 2009, 05:24:01 PMQuote from: the ghost on November 30, 2009, 03:26:23 PMWell I guess I got into something else here, but I will say that the more I learn about evolution, the more I am led to believe that there is something that created this. Things are almost too complex to insist that it "just happened". Now I don't think whatever created everything is some church's idea of God, but I think there is someone/thing that is responsible.Real fuckin' got damn talk.And who don't agree wit evolution?? We don't believe we EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS. How Christians reject the idea of advancing? We know we evolve. Look at fuckin' race got damn it. Evolution in the context of 'ape to man' is what we reject. In THAT context of evolution.no one says we evolved from apes. Its that we evolved from a common ancestor.also, monkey isn't the same as ape.Aight, Technical Timothy, but wasn't you the other nigga in that thread implying you believe we evolved from an ape??
Quote from: QuietTruth on November 30, 2009, 08:06:57 PMQuote from: rapsodie, the troll prince on November 30, 2009, 06:14:22 PMQuote from: QuietTruth on November 30, 2009, 05:24:01 PMQuote from: the ghost on November 30, 2009, 03:26:23 PMWell I guess I got into something else here, but I will say that the more I learn about evolution, the more I am led to believe that there is something that created this. Things are almost too complex to insist that it "just happened". Now I don't think whatever created everything is some church's idea of God, but I think there is someone/thing that is responsible.Real fuckin' got damn talk.And who don't agree wit evolution?? We don't believe we EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS. How Christians reject the idea of advancing? We know we evolve. Look at fuckin' race got damn it. Evolution in the context of 'ape to man' is what we reject. In THAT context of evolution.no one says we evolved from apes. Its that we evolved from a common ancestor.also, monkey isn't the same as ape.Aight, Technical Timothy, but wasn't you the other nigga in that thread implying you believe we evolved from an ape??No...the theory is that we and apes evolved from the same thing. I'm going to use a word you like to use. Coincidence. Do you think its a coincidence that we are physically so similarly to apes? What about all fossils that have been found of Homo Erectus, Neanderthal, etc, other intelligent humanoids? None of this supports your belief that humans were "created".
Quote from: QuietTruth on November 30, 2009, 08:06:57 PMAight, Technical TimothyGotta try to use that one on someone tomorrow lol