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Evolution
Sparegeez:
doesn't bacteria mutate/evolve based on its environment? It's a living organism, and so are we. Most atheists try to bring up evolution to discredit faith in religion, but evolution is one of the reasons I have faith. these people think they're making fun of religious ignorance, but instead they're being even more ignorant.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: rapsodie, the troll prince on December 01, 2009, 04:11:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 01, 2009, 03:23:11 PM ---That's wrong. Gravity and Evolution are not the same. You can use the scientific method to study gravity in a way you cannot for evolution. The math doesn't exist in the same way. A lot of evolution has to do with the best logical answer based on unseen history. Gravity has nothing to do with history. It is now and we can study it. I'm not saying certain things aren't currently evolving, but saying the human race was once homo erectus is based on faith, logical faith, but faith. Saying on two objects of different mass fall at the same rate is based complete on math and science, and certainty.
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wtf are you talking about? Homo Erectus is extinct.
Evolution is a fact. We have seen evolution occur.
And the theory part of it as it pertains to humans, has nothing to do with faith. Faith doesn't use evidence. There is overwhelming evidence to support that humans evolved from a more primitive ape-like species. That is the logical and most likely conclusion, not "faith."
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The fact that you say most likely proves that it is faith. That's what fact and proof are. You said most likely, there is no dispute, and the idea that something is most likely and not certain means it is faith. Thank you for arguing in my favor. Only when there is no doubt what so ever does faith cease to exist.
And of course faith uses evidence. Faith doesn't mean crazy Christians talking about men living in whales. It means believing in something that you aren't 100% sure of and cannot show to anyone to prove. If evolution were like gravity you could show it to all these nuts and convince them otherwise. But evolution, just like carbon dating is not as solid as gravity. That's my only point. I am not arguing for creationism or intelligent design.
Triple OG Rapsodie:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 01, 2009, 04:45:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: rapsodie, the troll prince on December 01, 2009, 04:11:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 01, 2009, 03:23:11 PM ---That's wrong. Gravity and Evolution are not the same. You can use the scientific method to study gravity in a way you cannot for evolution. The math doesn't exist in the same way. A lot of evolution has to do with the best logical answer based on unseen history. Gravity has nothing to do with history. It is now and we can study it. I'm not saying certain things aren't currently evolving, but saying the human race was once homo erectus is based on faith, logical faith, but faith. Saying on two objects of different mass fall at the same rate is based complete on math and science, and certainty.
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wtf are you talking about? Homo Erectus is extinct.
Evolution is a fact. We have seen evolution occur.
And the theory part of it as it pertains to humans, has nothing to do with faith. Faith doesn't use evidence. There is overwhelming evidence to support that humans evolved from a more primitive ape-like species. That is the logical and most likely conclusion, not "faith."
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The fact that you say most likely proves that it is faith. That's what fact and proof are. You said most likely, there is no dispute, and the idea that something is most likely and not certain means it is faith. Thank you for arguing in my favor. Only when there is no doubt what so ever does faith cease to exist.
And of course faith uses evidence. Faith doesn't mean crazy Christians talking about men living in whales. It means believing in something that you aren't 100% sure of and cannot show to anyone to prove. If evolution were like gravity you could show it to all these nuts and convince them otherwise. But evolution, just like carbon dating is not as solid as gravity. That's my only point. I am not arguing for creationism or intelligent design.
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--- Quote ---Faith is the confident belief or trust in the truth or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.[1][2] The word "faith" can refer to a religion itself or to religion in general. As with "trust", faith involves a concept of future events or outcomes, and is used conversely for a belief "not resting on logical proof or material evidence."
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The theory of human evolution has an overwhelming amount of material evidence to support it. Faith has nothing to do with evidence. They are two completely different things and not comparable at all. The theory of human evolution relies on evidence and the logical conclusion from said evidence. Religion is based on absolute faith with absolutely no logical reasoning. How many times am I going to have to say this?
Evolution has been proven because we have witnessed it. Evolution is fact, just as much as gravity. You are confusing this with the theory of human evolution, which cannot have been witnessed because it happened over millions of years. Regardless of whether you are talking about evolution as a fact, or the theory of human evolution, neither are comparable to faith in the slightest.
C-BLUE:
--- Quote from: rapsodie, the troll prince on December 01, 2009, 04:52:28 PM ---The theory of human evolution has an overwhelming amount of evidence to support it. Faith has nothing to do with evidence.
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J.D. Wykid, Esq.:
evolution is false. here is the proof...be ready to get pwnd....
http://www.youtube.com/v/7sanplNTr6c&hl=en_US&fs=1&
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