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Evolution
pootypooty:
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This is why I'm convinced God are simply the laws controlling the universe.
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By that description, you're a Panentheist.
Shallow:
Rap, let me say it again and I hope you understand me this time, faith with regards to religion has nothing to do with what I mean by faith. Faith and evidence go hand in hand. The very reason criminals take or don't take pleas is based on it. If you have video of a man committing a crime and his face, and voice are easily recognizable you have a guilty plea because there is no argument against the crime. If you have an eye witness, and a motive it still isn't the same as a video. It is still based on faith that what is logical is most likely. There was a man released from prison a few years ago here in Canada for the murder and abduction of a young girl. All the evidence, science, and logic, pointed to him. The jury had faith in it. Science changed. He was released. It was logical, it was evident, but it was wrong. Why was he put in jail? Because of faith. Faith in DNA testing. Faith in eye witnesses. None of them saw him kill the girl, but they believed he did. And all the logic agreed with it.
Faith occurs when you haven't seen it yourself. And in science or in law faith works out just fine most of the time, but it's still faith to some degree. I don't believe two objects of differing mass fall at the same rate. I see it, try it and know it. I don't see, try, and know, new species evolving from completely different species. I believe it. There is a difference. So stop equating human evolution to gravity.
QuietTruth:
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--- Quote from: QuietTruth on November 30, 2009, 08:06:57 PM ---Aight, Technical Timothy
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Gotta try to use that one on someone tomorrow lol
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:D
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--- Quote from: the ghost on November 30, 2009, 03:26:23 PM ---Well I guess I got into something else here, but I will say that the more I learn about evolution, the more I am led to believe that there is something that created this. Things are almost too complex to insist that it "just happened". Now I don't think whatever created everything is some church's idea of God, but I think there is someone/thing that is responsible.
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Real fuckin' got damn talk.
And who don't agree wit evolution?? We don't believe we EVOLVED FROM MONKEYS. How Christians reject the idea of advancing? We know we evolve. Look at fuckin' race got damn it. Evolution in the context of 'ape to man' is what we reject. In THAT context of evolution.
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no one says we evolved from apes. Its that we evolved from a common ancestor.
also, monkey isn't the same as ape.
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Aight, Technical Timothy, but wasn't you the other nigga in that thread implying you believe we evolved from an ape??
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No...the theory is that we and apes evolved from the same thing. I'm going to use a word you like to use. Coincidence. Do you think its a coincidence that we are physically so similarly to apes? What about all fossils that have been found of Homo Erectus, Neanderthal, etc, other intelligent humanoids? None of this supports your belief that humans were "created".
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So who created the apes?
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Like I and others on this board have already said, pick up a book. It ain't my job to explain evolution to someone who isn't willing to learn beyond what they have been conditioned for.
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Looks like you're stumped. Aww, damn.
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I'm not the one who's stumped. Google the shit. it ain't my job to do your research for you. You shouldn't be involved in the conversation if you don't understand what's being discussed.
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You sound like a got damn broken record. Nigga please. I understand. You must just not understand my vocabulary. Mmmm k. I'm followin' youuuuuuuu Rapsodie, followin' youuuuuuuu, and not in that way so fallback. I'm followin' your conversation. What I'd like to know is how ev'rybody just skipped over M Dogg's post. Hmmm?? Why didn't nobody challenge what he said? Ah, maybe he just made a good point.
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If I sound like a broken record, its because you aren't listening. DO SOME RESEARCH.
your questions don't make any sense. Its not the vocabulary, its that you don't know what you're talking about. Who created the apes? You're the one who is saying they were created, not me. If you mean what apes evolved from, you can google an article about ape evolution and find out easily. You can't just come into a discussion and expect other people to explain to you what is being discussed.
What I want to know is how you can swear that we aren't related at all to apes, when you haven't even taken the time to do any research into the topic.
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I was simply replying to you with my 'who created apes'.
You said you believe in the theory that we and apes evolved from the same thang, and I'm askin' you, what created that thang? Shit just can't appear. So we formed from organisms? Well how did the organisms get here?
Fraxxx:
^^^ There are even theories about how life COULD have started in the beginning. But, once again, only because you don't know for sure, your explanation shouldn't always be god. Saying that everything you don't understand is caused by an almighty super-power isn't very clever. If I show some Amazonas people who are on stone age-level a TV they'll think it was magic.
Eversince humans practise science they found logical explanations for many phenomenons they were surrounded by. First there's a theory based on hints, then at some point you might be able to prove your theory. This way man managed to explain veeery much, which appeared as some kind of mistery before. If we would have stuck with faith our explanation for everything would still be 'god/magic'.
And you are flip flopping! You say 'man don't come from apes'. Then you are told (not for the first time) that there's a good chance we have the same origins. Then you ask how there could be origins anyway if it wasn't for god. That's a whole other question. You just don't have any knowledge on this, not even from your point of view. I talked to people who are sceptic about evolution and they had at least something to say.
You have not!
The sloth
QuietTruth:
^ Asking questions doesn't mean I believe them. So how's that flip-flopping? If he's telling me he believes we formed from organisms that evolved into creatures, I'm askin' him, who made the organisms? I'm questioning, NOT stating. Nevermind. Fuck ittttttttttttttt. I evidently can't get across to you about what I'm sayin', so just fuck ittttttttttt.
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