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How about that AFC East?
OchoCinco:
lol yea n I like how shallow points out all these things brady has done wrong to lose games, go back n find what Manning has done to lose games u fool. U act like Brady is the only one to make a bad play. Ur analysis and picking out shit is completely one sided its funny. Fact is Brady must have done some pretty good things to lead his team to 3 superbowls while manning had great teams an just as great coach and only has 1 superbowl. Manning is the definition of a playoff choker. Fact is he underperforms when he needs to the most.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Ocho on December 07, 2009, 10:24:48 AM ---lol yea n I like how shallow points out all these things brady has done wrong to lose games, go back n find what Manning has done to lose games u fool. U act like Brady is the only one to make a bad play. Ur analysis and picking out shit is completely one sided its funny. Fact is Brady must have done some pretty good things to lead his team to 3 superbowls while manning had great teams an just as great coach and only has 1 superbowl. Manning is the definition of a playoff choker. Fact is he underperforms when he needs to the most.
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I've pointed out every bad throw by Manning from this season to every season before. I don't make excuses for bad decisions. But he never choked like Brady has. Brady in recent years has been playing with the lead or at least a tie and has found ways not to score. This is going back to the 05 year against Denver. The second they started believing he was Joe Montana and started letting him be creative is the second they stopped winning championships. Brady was at his best when he didn't have to be that good. Screen pass, screen pass, screen pass, screen pass fake stand in the pocket, hit the wide open guy. It was easy. Just like it was easy for Quinn at Notre Dame, for Cassel last year, and Kyle Orton this year. Put Brady in a spread and make him make tough trows by applying pressure and he fucks up way worse than Manning ever could.
Manning's chokes came in games where the opponent took and early lead and took the Indy run away an then ran down the throats of the small Indy D. The very fact that Indy is built around taking the lead should be proof that it depends more on QB play than NE. The current Pats can no longer rely on defensive three and outs and it's killing them. Brees, Warner, and Favre would all have much greater success with the current Pats than Brady is having.
OchoCinco:
The fact is all ur arguments are "if" this had happened and "if" they had played this team and "if" so and so was the qb they would be better. The fact is those arent good arguments and show no proof of anything. 3 rings is proof, Manning under performing in the playoffs is proof. So you can say all the fuckin gibberish you want about "ifs" but that dont mean shit in the real world until that shit actually happens. I aint sayin Manning aint better then Brady but ur Brady hate and tryin to pick him apart is so fuckin retarded especially when you ur arguments revolve about what you think would happen in certain situations.
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2009, 03:37:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ocho on December 07, 2009, 10:24:48 AM ---lol yea n I like how shallow points out all these things brady has done wrong to lose games, go back n find what Manning has done to lose games u fool. U act like Brady is the only one to make a bad play. Ur analysis and picking out shit is completely one sided its funny. Fact is Brady must have done some pretty good things to lead his team to 3 superbowls while manning had great teams an just as great coach and only has 1 superbowl. Manning is the definition of a playoff choker. Fact is he underperforms when he needs to the most.
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I've pointed out every bad throw by Manning from this season to every season before. I don't make excuses for bad decisions. But he never choked like Brady has. Brady in recent years has been playing with the lead or at least a tie and has found ways not to score. This is going back to the 05 year against Denver. The second they started believing he was Joe Montana and started letting him be creative is the second they stopped winning championships. Brady was at his best when he didn't have to be that good. Screen pass, screen pass, screen pass, screen pass fake stand in the pocket, hit the wide open guy. It was easy. Just like it was easy for Quinn at Notre Dame, for Cassel last year, and Kyle Orton this year. Put Brady in a spread and make him make tough trows by applying pressure and he fucks up way worse than Manning ever could.
Manning's chokes came in games where the opponent took and early lead and took the Indy run away an then ran down the throats of the small Indy D. The very fact that Indy is built around taking the lead should be proof that it depends more on QB play than NE. The current Pats can no longer rely on defensive three and outs and it's killing them. Brees, Warner, and Favre would all have much greater success with the current Pats than Brady is having.
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but...
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2009, 10:04:13 AM ---
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i'll take losses in the regular season opposed to losses in the playoffs.
losing the Superbowl to the Giants (which i will call a FLUKE forever) is the only thing holding Tom Brady from the unanimous greatest season ever.
Jaydc:
I think people use bradys rings as the only thing to defend him.Brady didnt win those rings,his team did.
In comparison to say hockey,the goalie is an important position like the qb in football.Chris osgood has won how many rings with the red wings now?So does that make him the best goalie in the league and one of the best ever?Not a fucking a chance.
Brady with any other team doesnt win a single ring.Most over rated quarter back of all time.
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