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How about that AFC East?
OchoCinco:
lol i love when ppl say shit like the team won it not the qb, no shit idiot. Has a shitty team ever won the superbowl, no. The whole point of winning it is the best TEAMS get there to win it, not some chumps that get lucky all season. The fact is 100's of analysts and people that play football and been it around football for years say Brady is one of the best. So I think Ill go with them and the facts that show Brady is good lol, not some dude that probably thinks Sanchez is one of the best in the league, and some other that fully admitting to hating brady with a passion that he loses sleep when brady wins and cums in his pants when he fails.....
peyton manning career rating 95.3
tom brady 93.3
circa 2008
Peyton Manning's lifetime playoff stats throwing to Marvin Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Edge/Addai:
21 TD's, 17 INT
Tom Brady's lifetime playoff stats throwing mostly to David Givens, David Patten, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney:
25 TD's, 12 INT
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Jaydc's better is better then your better on December 07, 2009, 06:10:59 PM ---I think people use bradys rings as the only thing to defend him.Brady didnt win those rings,his team did.
In comparison to say hockey,the goalie is an important position like the qb in football.Chris osgood has won how many rings with the red wings now?So does that make him the best goalie in the league and one of the best ever?Not a fucking a chance.
Brady with any other team doesnt win a single ring.Most over rated quarter back of all time.
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well then people need to stop making it out like Peyton wins games all by his lonesome.
i mean, Brady has two game winning drives in the Superbowl; the QB position will forever get the glory & title of "leading" those drives.
& this on-going argument of Brady not winning anywhere else is interesting & ridiculous.
what team would Peyton strive on besides a top contender? the Saints? Pats? Vikings? Chargers? those are the only teams i see him doing good on if you could place him any other teams in the NFL & they are fine without him; but i could see Brady winning on those teams too, judging by his ACTUAL stats & not my personal opinion of hate towards the man.
the only average team i could see Peyton going on & making them a strong contender is the Jets.
but regardless where he went, STATS & games that ACTUALLY happened, he cannot win in the playoffs, unless the Pats D choke on him in the playoffs & then get the mighty Bears in the Superbowl lol.
ThaChamp:
both are superbowl championship teams
its hard to argue who is better but Colts are this year
Jaydc:
--- Quote from: Ocho on December 07, 2009, 07:06:33 PM ---lol i love when ppl say shit like the team won it not the qb, no shit idiot. Has a shitty team ever won the superbowl, no. The whole point of winning it is the best TEAMS get there to win it, not some chumps that get lucky all season. The fact is 100's of analysts and people that play football and been it around football for years say Brady is one of the best. So I think Ill go with them and the facts that show Brady is good lol, not some dude that probably thinks Sanchez is one of the best in the league, and some other that fully admitting to hating brady with a passion that he loses sleep when brady wins and cums in his pants when he fails.....
peyton manning career rating 95.3
tom brady 93.3
circa 2008
Peyton Manning's lifetime playoff stats throwing to Marvin Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and Edge/Addai:
21 TD's, 17 INT
Tom Brady's lifetime playoff stats throwing mostly to David Givens, David Patten, Deion Branch, Reche Caldwell, and Jabar Gaffney:
25 TD's, 12 INT
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I like how you conveniently leave randy moss and wes welkers name out out of bradys receivers to make it seem hes working with pedestrian wide receivers. ::)
Brady is good but hes nowhere near elite and nowhere near one of the best to every do it.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on December 07, 2009, 07:12:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jaydc's better is better then your better on December 07, 2009, 06:10:59 PM ---I think people use bradys rings as the only thing to defend him.Brady didnt win those rings,his team did.
In comparison to say hockey,the goalie is an important position like the qb in football.Chris osgood has won how many rings with the red wings now?So does that make him the best goalie in the league and one of the best ever?Not a fucking a chance.
Brady with any other team doesnt win a single ring.Most over rated quarter back of all time.
--- End quote ---
well then people need to stop making it out like Peyton wins games all by his lonesome.
i mean, Brady has two game winning drives in the Superbowl; the QB position will forever get the glory & title of "leading" those drives.
& this on-going argument of Brady not winning anywhere else is interesting & ridiculous.
what team would Peyton strive on besides a top contender? the Saints? Pats? Vikings? Chargers? those are the only teams i see him doing good on if you could place him any other teams in the NFL & they are fine without him; but i could see Brady winning on those teams too, judging by his ACTUAL stats & not my personal opinion of hate towards the man.
the only average team i could see Peyton going on & making them a strong contender is the Jets.
but regardless where he went, STATS & games that ACTUALLY happened, he cannot win in the playoffs, unless the Pats D choke on him in the playoffs & then get the mighty Bears in the Superbowl lol.
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I love how you back and forth on who wins games. The Osgood example was as good as it gets. He might have more playoff wins than any other goalie right now but he's nowhere near the best goalie of the era, and I'm a Red Wings fan. But the win/loss stats make a case for him.
I don't care about W/L stats. I don't care about TD stats, or yard starts, or anything of the sort. My argument for Manning over Brady in a landslide is based on this and this foremost; put each of them on the two worst teams in the league and both teams would still suck but the difference in my mind is Manning would still be amazing while Brady would suck as bad as the team he's on. Manning wouldn't turn the winless 70s Bucs into a playoff team. He might not even get them past 1 or 2 wins. But through it all he'd shine to the point where'd they'd build around him or another team would try like the devil to get him, like Denver did with Plummer. Brady, and I truly believe this would fall into obscurity. And I'm talking about if they were drafted by bad teams. I just don't think that if Brady was drafted by the Lions that he would have ever become a career starter in the NFL. While Manning never would have seen the bench no matter where he played.
Call me a dick suck, call me what you want. But I would have said the same thing in the 90s about Elway and Aikman, or the 80s about Marino and Montana, or the 70s about Tarkenton and Bradshaw, or the 60s about Unitas and Starr. It's not about Brady and Manning, it's about what I think about football. I've got no reason to think Manning over Brady other than the fact that I've watched them both as a Bills fan their whole careers and saw one play at a level higher than the other. And I mean playoffs too. Fuck stats. I watch games, not numbers.
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