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100,000+ protesting in Copenhagen?
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: MediumL on December 18, 2009, 03:10:51 PM ---LOL @ people not beilieving in climate change in 2009. I bet some of you don't believe in evolution either :laugh:
How can the CO2 levels in a planet change so drastically over 100yrs which in the universe is little to no time?
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If you had bothered to actually read on these things, you would notice 5 things, firstly the graphs have been manipulated, secondly information has been withheld or deleted (which is criminal by the way) thirdly regarding what scientists actually say, they indicate that humans are responsible for a warming in the last 20 years, not the last 100! the latter is the soundbite used, fourthly in the last decade the trend has been ever so slightly downwards, or essentially it's stopped rising and finally there is no concensus, so with all of these things added into the pot, you should actually read instead of simply assuming everything is black and white.
The Overfiend:
I think the science is fairly solid on what CO2 does and is.
Pick up and read on it read!!! Instead of getting all your information from a screen and personalities, do your own reading and understand shit for yourself.
Plants soak up about 30% of CO2 usually but we are putting more and more CO2 and other shit into the atmosphere and the ecosystem.
So its like a full bathtub without the plug in that is draining, BUT; the taps are fully on.
CO2 helps trap heat in the Earth's atmosphere and the temperature of the Earth and thus... fucks with the environment!!!
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: Illuminati Clique on December 19, 2009, 08:07:58 AM ---I think the science is fairly solid on what CO2 does and is.
Pick up and read on it read!!! Instead of getting all your information from a screen and personalities, do your own reading and understand shit for yourself.
Plants soak up about 30% of CO2 usually but we are putting more and more CO2 and other shit into the atmosphere and the ecosystem.
So its like a full bathtub without the plug in that is draining, BUT; the taps are fully on.
CO2 helps trap heat in the Earth's atmosphere and the temperature of the Earth and thus... fucks with the environment!!!
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Since you are implying that I don't read on it let me ask you...
What should the right temperature be?
should the earth not warm? should it in fact cool?
if so, by what temperature is appropriate for the earth? by what proportion of the earths warming is C02 responsible?
by what proportion of that is humans contribution to C02 responsible?
why is christopher monckton open challenge for scientists to debate him ignored?
why if the evidence is so compelling to the east anglian institute decide that audit climate should not get a hold of data and so asked other scientists within it's institution to delete it?
Scientists estimate that the earth is 4.5 billion years old, in light of that, is 150 years of data a definitive case?
Is this the hottest it's ever been? if not, how long did the hot period continue for before?
Why do they call it a concensus when tens of thousands of scientists disagree? http://www.oism.org/pproject/
Why is it that every other sector of science uses hypothesis to state what the trends and yet in this field, these alarmists state that x will definitely happen, what is it that makes them so infallible?
M Dogg™:
You are arguing the wrong argument. First off, CO2 does help cause global warming, second CO, which cars give out, is more harmful than CO2. Also, OIL IS LIMITED... let me say that again, oil is limited. If anything, we should change fuels because we are going to run out of oil someday, and we need a plan B, C and D. You are a market person, well is it any fault of the market that shows green energy and low admissions cars are selling. LED Christmas lights instead of regular, energy bulbs over regular bulbs. I say this, you want some reading on our depleting oil supply, then here you go. http://quasar.unibas.ch/~fisker/401/oil/oil.html Filled with tons of links and references please read that.
virtuoso:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on December 19, 2009, 09:39:50 AM ---You are arguing the wrong argument. First off, CO2 does help cause global warming, second CO, which cars give out, is more harmful than CO2. Also, OIL IS LIMITED... let me say that again, oil is limited. If anything, we should change fuels because we are going to run out of oil someday, and we need a plan B, C and D. You are a market person, well is it any fault of the market that shows green energy and low admissions cars are selling. LED Christmas lights instead of regular, energy bulbs over regular bulbs. I say this, you want some reading on our depleting oil supply, then here you go. http://quasar.unibas.ch/~fisker/401/oil/oil.html Filled with tons of links and references please read that.
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Lol do you even know what you are talking about? C0 is carbon monoxide which results in incomplete burning of fossil fuels, as opposed to C02 which produces more oxygen than it does carbon hence it gives life as opposed to starving the environment. Carbon monoxide is a problem in an enclosed space of course, because your body is then robbed of oxygen but other than that, it can freely escape. No offence but you are the person who spoke about the poison we see being emitted into the air from factories (carbon monoxide) except we don't see it, we don't taste it, we don't smell it. As for oil there are hundreds and hundreds of years of it and that's from my existing supplies, google oil found, there are thousands of links all over the world to various reserves. I agree if you can get away from the dependency without severely hurting the existing economy then great.
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