Fredro Star could have been on DEATH ROW in 1996

[OG Hack Wilson]

holy shit man - what a poor move for him to stay at Def Jam.  dude coulda been on a buncha Pac records.

[Jimmy H.]

I find it funny that he says Brandy told him not to go over there but then like 5 years later, her brother Ray J. was fucking with them and more or less would have been an artist if he'd have gotten his contract sorted out.

[OG Hack Wilson]

I find it funny that he says Brandy told him not to go over there but then like 5 years later, her brother Ray J. was fucking with them and more or less would have been an artist if he'd have gotten his contract sorted out.

ray j was all over "say hi to the bad guy"  (ofcourse we didnt get the REAL album)


but that was 6 years later lol

who knows

[Jaydc]

I remember suge mentioning that brandy asked suge to not sign ray j and he agreed not to.

[OG Hack Wilson]

I remember suge mentioning that brandy asked suge to not sign ray j and he agreed not to.

thats cuz Suge is a nice guy

[fette_chico]

holy shit man - what a poor move for him to stay at Def Jam.  dude coulda been on a buncha Pac records.

could have been, but then they might not see the light of day like all the other death row stuff. I think Def Jam did a lot more for him than what death row would have.
Ray J on death row? Same thing would have been just another name on the now infamous .pdf documents
I liked Death Row records more when i was younger and just heard the music without knowing all the bullshit that goes on in the studios  with the artists that make it.

[BiggBoogaBiff]

lol... Fredro Star is mad wack yo... real talk


Sticky Fingaz will/has always outshined him and Son.

[fabtoxicp]

u cant b serious, "bad move"? wtf? Def Jam was ALWAYS a better label than Death Row. russel simmons was an extremely good boss in comarison to suge.
People actually got their albums put out, n made money - Warren G had more money than most of the artists on Death Row..

i remember seein dat "Show" documentary - Dre met warren for the first time since the "Doggysytle" sessions or somethin, n was like, "damn, if i knew lil' warren was gonna sell 4 million i would've fuccd wit him more in the first place..

[2euce 7even]

u cant b serious, "bad move"? wtf? Def Jam was ALWAYS a better label than Death Row. russel simmons was an extremely good boss in comarison to suge.
People actually got their albums put out, n made money - Warren G had more money than most of the artists on Death Row..

ok maybe but def jam west didnt do a good job 2 richie rich, scc, kali ranks,etc. either.poor promotion, bad sales, etc.

[fabtoxicp]

yeah, u right. i think the only west-act that actually did any "good" was warren..

but hey, at least the other west-acts on def jam, got their albums put out.. 

wasn't flesh 'n' bone also under dej jam?

[OG Hack Wilson]

lol... Fredro Star is mad wack yo... real talk


Sticky Fingaz will/has always outshined him and Son.

while i will agree that Sticky is better, still Fredro made a horrible career move



be remembered for rapping with 2pac and snoop?  or be remembered for "slam"?

[Jimmy H.]

Fredro is actually doing fine. I can't call a bad career move because there was no guarantee that anything would have popped off over there at the time. You got to remember that Suge was all over the place in 1996 trying to scoop up the best talent for his label but with a lot of the acts he was trying to acquire, nothing even came of it. You can say how he would have been "remembered for working with Pac and Snoop instead of Slam" but how many people remember MC Hammer for working with them and that was around the same period? Breaking a lucrative deal with Def Jam to go work for Death Row, just months before Pac got killed and Suge got locked up doesn't read "missed opportunity" to me. I think his career worked out plenty without making that move.

[fabtoxicp]

i think ANY rapper would have went wit def jam instead of death row back in the day.. Dej Jam was holy like "The source"-magazine in hiphop back in the day, n deathrow really couldnt compare shit to Russel simmons and his industry-muscles.. sign wit a label dat had "snoop/2pac" or a label that birthed acts llike "LL cool j/beastie boys/public enemy etc."??  , i mean c'mon
 i know snoop n pac r both legendary today, but back in the 90's, a rapper would dream of bein under the Defjam-umbrella - only bums like K-9, Young Soldierz were signin those Deathrow-papers.. no disrespect

Fredro is doin extremely good today, he's in the movie-game much like Sticky, n are makin more money than any other weird former deathrow-bum.. no disrespect  n he's probly in the position he is in, cuz he sticked to his apple-roots n continued evolvin in the East together wit his Onyx-partners, connecting wit movie-directors like Spike Lee etc etc.. wut the fucc woud've happend if he went to cali n started fuccn wit some big-ass damu-posing, bald & fat cigarsmokin suge knight???

[Jimmy H.]

i think ANY rapper would have went wit def jam instead of death row back in the day.. Dej Jam was holy like "The source"-magazine in hiphop back in the day, n deathrow really couldnt compare shit to Russel simmons and his industry-muscles.. sign wit a label dat had "snoop/2pac" or a label that birthed acts llike "LL cool j/beastie boys/public enemy etc."??  , i mean c'mon
 i know snoop n pac r both legendary today, but back in the 90's, a rapper would dream of bein under the Defjam-umbrella - only bums like K-9, Young Soldierz were signin those Deathrow-papers.. no disrespect

Fredro is doin extremely good today, he's in the movie-game much like Sticky, n are makin more money than any other weird former deathrow-bum.. no disrespect  n he's probly in the position he is in, cuz he sticked to his apple-roots n continued evolvin in the East together wit his Onyx-partners, connecting wit movie-directors like Spike Lee etc etc.. wut the fucc woud've happend if he went to cali n started fuccn wit some big-ass damu-posing, bald & fat cigarsmokin suge knight???

Lot of true points. It's like people look at it from fan boy eyes. Yes, it would be great to record with Pac, Snoop, and a lot of those Death Row artists but from a business perspective, having a collabo doesn't automatically put you up the ladder in terms of fame or success. It's like people who just assume that if Dre produces a track for someone, they will be a star. You could have an all-star collabo album, produced by Dre and tons of bomb producers but if the business isn't right, you could be just a guy with awesome music that nobody but die-hard fans will ever fucking hear. I mean, some people would honestly bankrupt their own careers just so they could say they did a song with Pac or were on the same label. To me, that's stupid.