What caused Kurupt to change his style once he left DEath Row??

[OG Hack Wilson]

if you hear his stuff from '92 - '96 it sounds completely different than how he raps now



similar to Eminem's drastic change of voice/flow from 1996-2001 and 2002-2009



when i realized "SLippin in the West" on Re-lit had a fresh old Kurupt verse it was awesome to hear

[fabtoxicp]

humans tend to evolve and change wit the times. so does rappers..

[EFFeX]

Don't forget though, that Kurupt's '92 flow was very common to that time. While we like it as fans, it does sound dated.

Not taking anything away from it, just bringing up an alternate point of view.

[acgrundy]

well for 1 he just started putting out wayyyy too much music.  You could tell that he just started doing half ass freestyles for a lot of his verses...it was more about quantity over quality.  plus dude had to be on some bad drugs for awhile.  Just look at him in the g tv dvd.

[G-Funk]

Age.

[fabtoxicp]

he was drinkin way too many beers, smokin way too many Newports for a while - u can hear it in his voice on his later Death Row-material, recorded during the war. soundin like Michael Madsen

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

I've always intended to make a thread addressing this but have never actually gotten around to doing so.  My theory is two-fold:

1. 2Pac watered down the Death Row artists (I have to explain what I mean, but that's for another day when I have some more time to speak on this in full)
2. Kurupt moved away from his Rakim-influenced style.  Listen to Dogg Food, lots of analogies to murdering emcees in MC battling, like "strangle you with the microphone cord" "sentence you to death by use of poetics" this was when Kurupt had a heavy Rakim influence.  When he left Death Row, his artistic creativity took a hit for a number of reasons that I intend to address one of these days.  In any case, he stopped using MC battling analogies and settled into a blase style of just using direct physical threats and insults and put-ons like "eat a dicc" and so forth...

I have a grand theory to explain all of this...one day I will have the time to do so.  But anyway, this is the Cliff Notes version.

[OG Hack Wilson]

Don't forget though, that Kurupt's '92 flow was very common to that time. While we like it as fans, it does sound dated.

Not taking anything away from it, just bringing up an alternate point of view.

so your saying in 92-96 rappers were rapping with better flows and more complex rhymes?





go listen to Kurupt's flow on Chronic and Doggystyle, or ANY of his songs with 2pac

then go listen to his flow on Chronic 2001 or Say Hi To The Bad Guy

then go listen to his flow on the DJ Quik album


it's like he's just headed downhill after a great 5 year start

[acgrundy]

also once the 2nd dogg pound album came out he just started heavily getting into the whole crip thing, and way more into the gangsta stuff

[mikeOG]

I've always intended to make a thread addressing this but have never actually gotten around to doing so.  My theory is two-fold:

1. 2Pac watered down the Death Row artists (I have to explain what I mean, but that's for another day when I have some more time to speak on this in full)
2. Kurupt moved away from his Rakim-influenced style.  Listen to Dogg Food, lots of analogies to murdering emcees in MC battling, like "strangle you with the microphone cord" "sentence you to death by use of poetics" this was when Kurupt had a heavy Rakim influence.  When he left Death Row, his artistic creativity took a hit for a number of reasons that I intend to address one of these days.  In any case, he stopped using MC battling analogies and settled into a blase style of just using direct physical threats and insults and put-ons like "eat a dicc" and so forth...

I have a grand theory to explain all of this...one day I will have the time to do so.  But anyway, this is the Cliff Notes version.

is it pac telling kurupt to quit being lazy and pump out music. which probably caused everyone on deathrow to put out unrefined lyrics since they looked up to pac.

[DTG Entertainment]

I've always intended to make a thread addressing this but have never actually gotten around to doing so.  My theory is two-fold:

1. 2Pac watered down the Death Row artists (I have to explain what I mean, but that's for another day when I have some more time to speak on this in full)
2. Kurupt moved away from his Rakim-influenced style.  Listen to Dogg Food, lots of analogies to murdering emcees in MC battling, like "strangle you with the microphone cord" "sentence you to death by use of poetics" this was when Kurupt had a heavy Rakim influence.  When he left Death Row, his artistic creativity took a hit for a number of reasons that I intend to address one of these days.  In any case, he stopped using MC battling analogies and settled into a blase style of just using direct physical threats and insults and put-ons like "eat a dicc" and so forth...

I have a grand theory to explain all of this...one day I will have the time to do so.  But anyway, this is the Cliff Notes version.

is it pac telling kurupt to quit being lazy and pump out music. which probably caused everyone on deathrow to put out unrefined lyrics since they looked up to pac.

Yes. Lol.

[EFFeX]

Don't forget though, that Kurupt's '92 flow was very common to that time. While we like it as fans, it does sound dated.

Not taking anything away from it, just bringing up an alternate point of view.

so your saying in 92-96 rappers were rapping with better flows and more complex rhymes?

go listen to Kurupt's flow on Chronic and Doggystyle, or ANY of his songs with 2pac

then go listen to his flow on Chronic 2001 or Say Hi To The Bad Guy

then go listen to his flow on the DJ Quik album

it's like he's just headed downhill after a great 5 year start

I'm saying that Kurupt's style in the early 90s was the same as many rappers on the East Coast, that was a common flow. Many emcees were sptting like that back in the day. Yes, Kurupt was doing it better. However, I think a lot of people just automatically assume that Kurupt would be making headlines if he still spit like that. It's a dated sound, that's all I'm saying.

By the way, I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Kurupt DID NOT fall off.

[acgrundy]

lol @ kurupt did not fall off

[mikeOG]

Don't forget though, that Kurupt's '92 flow was very common to that time. While we like it as fans, it does sound dated.

Not taking anything away from it, just bringing up an alternate point of view.

so your saying in 92-96 rappers were rapping with better flows and more complex rhymes?

go listen to Kurupt's flow on Chronic and Doggystyle, or ANY of his songs with 2pac

then go listen to his flow on Chronic 2001 or Say Hi To The Bad Guy

then go listen to his flow on the DJ Quik album

it's like he's just headed downhill after a great 5 year start

I'm saying that Kurupt's style in the early 90s was the same as many rappers on the East Coast, that was a common flow. Many emcees were sptting like that back in the day. Yes, Kurupt was doing it better. However, I think a lot of people just automatically assume that Kurupt would be making headlines if he still spit like that. It's a dated sound, that's all I'm saying.

By the way, I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Kurupt DID NOT fall off.

yeah I agree and Daz has fallen off much more. His lyrics were good and flow was laid back. I really miss that daz style ie: dogg food

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

yeah this theory sounds realistic and right
but overall kurupt has always been an overrated rapper
where do you rank him on the best rappers list?

well for 1 he just started putting out wayyyy too much music.  You could tell that he just started doing half ass freestyles for a lot of his verses...it was more about quantity over quality.  plus dude had to be on some bad drugs for awhile.  Just look at him in the g tv dvd.