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Chris Johnson Named Offensive POY
Lunatic:
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson on January 14, 2010, 07:28:02 PM ---and the answer is no because the cap situation would not work :D
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lol
Shallow:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 14, 2010, 05:40:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic on January 14, 2010, 04:15:24 PM ---^if it was realistic, he'd trade Greene/Jones for CJ in a split second
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until his small frame (for a Football player) hurts himself & he's done because he plays on pure speed.
if they made the trade i wouldn't disapprove, but i wouldn't run & scream for joy; because look at Leon; if he was our only back we're out.
& Shallow, we're talking about rushing; our package is better than his lone package; if his rushing was "that" much more valuable, i think the Titans would have a playoffs game this weekend.
& don't come in here & talk about how the Jets are good & "now you're comparing teams", because i had to sit here all year & listen to all of you, besides Hack & JayDC, about how much the Jets suck & how the team in scrubbish.
thennn, don't bring up "the Titans had Kerry Collins" because then you guys shat on Mark Sanchez on how bad he is lol.
so in the end, our rushing attack proved to be more prolific than the 2,006 yard man. ;D
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Just admit you got the math wrong. And I was never talking about just rushing. When a player puts up 500 pass yards to go with his 2000 rush yards, that means something (only one Jets WR has more than 500 yards, and two are at 500 yards). Hack poked fun at CJ for not being on a playoff team and then boasted the name Shonn Greene. I just made an obvious statement through a rhetorical question that CJ is miles ahead of Shonn Greene. And if for this coming week the Jets could dump Green for CJ they would with out thinking about it because it's the easiest decision in the world. You get a way better runner and you get a receiving threat. Just tell me you would turn that down.
Jones was brought up by me when I showed that even when you add the Jets top back this year that their two backs right now aren't as productive as the 1 CJ. Then I asserted that CJ would have been the difference in a few of those close games and would have made them more dangerous. The Titans have one less win than the Jets in the season despite having the 28th ranked defense in points. The Jets have the first ranked defense in points, and one more win. You say that it was the Jets run game that got them in ahead of the Titans? I argue all year that a QB can't get you into a the playoffs. You think I'll argue for a fucking running back? Give the Titans an average points allowed of 14.8 and you know what their record is? 12-4, maybe 13-3. The Jets have the best D and can't even get 10 wins. The Jets and Titans had about the same offense all year but the defense, especially in the first half is what made the difference, and even then it was only because, as you said it, God came in the form of Curtis Painter.
Now as for who should win offensive player of the year; wins of a team don't matter. We aren't judging value with regards to wins which is what an MVP is. We are judging offensive stats and CJ wins that by a landslide. He was the best offensive player in the league. Just like if a CB on a 4-12 team ever got 20 INTs, 5 forced fumbles, and 4 defensive TDs he'd win defensive player of the year, but not MVP because his value towards winning wasn't that great. MVP should always be based on how well would the team do with out him, and that's it, as far as I'm concerned.
Lunatic:
Shallow owns
Chamillitary Click:
--- Quote from: Shallow on January 14, 2010, 08:30:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on January 14, 2010, 05:40:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Lunatic on January 14, 2010, 04:15:24 PM ---^if it was realistic, he'd trade Greene/Jones for CJ in a split second
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until his small frame (for a Football player) hurts himself & he's done because he plays on pure speed.
if they made the trade i wouldn't disapprove, but i wouldn't run & scream for joy; because look at Leon; if he was our only back we're out.
& Shallow, we're talking about rushing; our package is better than his lone package; if his rushing was "that" much more valuable, i think the Titans would have a playoffs game this weekend.
& don't come in here & talk about how the Jets are good & "now you're comparing teams", because i had to sit here all year & listen to all of you, besides Hack & JayDC, about how much the Jets suck & how the team in scrubbish.
thennn, don't bring up "the Titans had Kerry Collins" because then you guys shat on Mark Sanchez on how bad he is lol.
so in the end, our rushing attack proved to be more prolific than the 2,006 yard man. ;D
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Just admit you got the math wrong. And I was never talking about just rushing. When a player puts up 500 pass yards to go with his 2000 rush yards, that means something (only one Jets WR has more than 500 yards, and two are at 500 yards). Hack poked fun at CJ for not being on a playoff team and then boasted the name Shonn Greene. I just made an obvious statement through a rhetorical question that CJ is miles ahead of Shonn Greene. And if for this coming week the Jets could dump Green for CJ they would with out thinking about it because it's the easiest decision in the world. You get a way better runner and you get a receiving threat. Just tell me you would turn that down.
Jones was brought up by me when I showed that even when you add the Jets top back this year that their two backs right now aren't as productive as the 1 CJ. Then I asserted that CJ would have been the difference in a few of those close games and would have made them more dangerous. The Titans have one less win than the Jets in the season despite having the 28th ranked defense in points. The Jets have the first ranked defense in points, and one more win. You say that it was the Jets run game that got them in ahead of the Titans? I argue all year that a QB can't get you into a the playoffs. You think I'll argue for a fucking running back? Give the Titans an average points allowed of 14.8 and you know what their record is? 12-4, maybe 13-3. The Jets have the best D and can't even get 10 wins. The Jets and Titans had about the same offense all year but the defense, especially in the first half is what made the difference, and even then it was only because, as you said it, God came in the form of Curtis Painter.
Now as for who should win offensive player of the year; wins of a team don't matter. We aren't judging value with regards to wins which is what an MVP is. We are judging offensive stats and CJ wins that by a landslide. He was the best offensive player in the league. Just like if a CB on a 4-12 team ever got 20 INTs, 5 forced fumbles, and 4 defensive TDs he'd win defensive player of the year, but not MVP because his value towards winning wasn't that great. MVP should always be based on how well would the team do with out him, and that's it, as far as I'm concerned.
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for your first paragraph, i don't know where you are going because i clearly stated i was talking about rushing lol & then i never said i wouldn't trade Shonn Greene for CJ lol.
for your second paragraph, i've heard, "it's Collins fault", "our record doesn't reflect this team", etc. & the same offense all year? speaking of God coming down in various forms, i heard the name "Vince Young" bounced around as if he was some sort of savior, not to mention i also heard all year that the Jets just suck, etc, etc.
it's like the Yankees, the entire season people just shit on them, say how bad they are, how they have no chance at winning in the Post Season & then when they win, it's expected & they are stacked & when they get bounced out in the first round it was just expected because they "aren't good"; same for the Jets. "they suck, they suck, they suck" & then when it comes down to comparing teams the Jets are suddenly some godly defense that makes their record looks foolish; meanwhile since Week 4, they haven't been good lol.
& last but not least, for you third paragraph, i don't know what you're trying to imply, because i didn't say anything about Chris Johnson not deserving the Offensive Player of the Year. he's had my vote since i said he was running the show in Tennessee & was then told Vince Young is the reason for the turn-a-round lol.
--- Quote from: Lunatic on January 14, 2010, 11:57:42 PM ---Shallow owns
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i too, find it really easy to co-sign people fighting arguments in my personal favor lol.
just make sure you make an apperance in the next Peyton Manning related thread, when i try to take the "Jesus" out of his middle name; it would mean a lot to your boy. :D
Lunatic:
^ I hate Peyton Manning with a passion but I can't deny his greatness
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