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M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Infinite... Be and It Is on March 09, 2010, 05:08:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Javier on March 09, 2010, 12:56:48 PM ---
You really can't blame the President though, the MIC has become way bigger than any President can change basically. Obama is an integral thinker and it's difficult to fuck with military spending and not have a huge backlash from the majority of the American people.
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453 Billion- Bush Sr. Military Budget
377 Billion- Clinton's Military Budget
496 Billion-- Bush Jr.'s Military Budget
^^^So Clinton was able to reduce military spending. So now tell me why can't Obama?
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Because Clinton was elected as the Soviet wall was falling and there was the thought that we might actually not need as much military. Now Obama is elected in the middle of two wars, trying to pull out of one without looking like a pussy.
virtuoso:
It has nothing to do with public opinion, the lobbyists control the policies inside Washington, do you think they would lobby hundreds of billions each year if it wasn't successful in their aims?
However as for benefits, infinite it's bullshit if you honestly think that social spending is the cause of the plight, the amount that is spent on benefits etc is small fry compared to what is stolen. The people are being fucked, if it wasn't for food stamps for instance then millions would die of starvation and if you think that's liberty, well give me tyranny.
For if your viewpoint was taken literally it would mean liberty for the few and hell for everyone else.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on March 09, 2010, 05:24:24 PM ---It has nothing to do with public opinion, the lobbyists control the policies inside Washington, do you think they would lobby hundreds of billions each year if it wasn't successful in their aims?
However as for benefits, infinite it's bullshit if you honestly think that social spending is the cause of the plight, the amount that is spent on benefits etc is small fry compared to what is stolen. The people are being fucked, if it wasn't for food stamps for instance then millions would die of starvation and if you think that's liberty, well give me tyranny.
For if your viewpoint was taken literally it would mean liberty for the few and hell for everyone else.
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It has everything to do with public opinion. Lobbies money buys public opinion, Without public opinion, things don't get done. People are sheep, you know it and I know it, and people believe commercials that scare them. It's proven, it's a fact and it's what drives Washington today. No one person can change that, no matter how many gray hairs they get trying.
virtuoso:
Right, but it's the lobbyists who then drive everything we and see and hear as far as policies are concerned
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on March 09, 2010, 05:37:46 PM ---
Right, but it's the lobbyists who then drive everything we and see and hear as far as policies are concerned
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I think we agree on this one... I'm scared, are you, because I truly agree.
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