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Extended jobless benefits start ending
Matty:
my take is that nothing comes for free in the long term and that the chickens will come home to roost in the form of currency devaluation/inflation. most americans with their head screwed on should realise this by now. same over here in the uk, this debt and spending binge to delay the pain is just compounding the problems and guaranteeing a worser outcome.
and m dogg sounds more and more like a pure liberal apologist/socialist ;D
M Dogg™:
That's me... ^
virtuoso:
Matty, it's the literal looting of the economy which is bringing the chickens home to roost, it is the deliberate implosion of credit, exercised through the popping of the housing bubble which is doing so, not the scape goats which people like to point the finger at i.e. some single mother with kids getting a council flat. The proportion actually spent on social spending is very small fry, over 2 trillion was "unaccounted for" in the pentagons budget alone prior to September 11.
And yes M Dogg, it seems we do actually agree, by the way that's not to say that I don't recognise the dangers in welfare, the people have to be offered the best opportunities for jobs, but when the financial elite caused this crash (which is still only in it's infancy) then they took away those opportunities and created the dependency. However it would be equally immoral to then take it away from them on the basis of we can't afford it, I mean shit, no one knows what the future holds, but even if they took away all social spending, it would barely register on a seismometer compared to the deficit.
Remember, msnbc has stated banks have access to some 24 plus trillion, this is an unprecedented power grab and so while robbing the population blind, getting some scraps back is hardly tipping the scales.
Matty:
it's a viscious circle, but social liabilities add up over time, they add up to astronomical amounts. criminality is at the very heart of the problem, but handouts to people are not productive either. this doesn't mean they are not 'neccesary', but the structural inbalances that remain unaddressed will become more and more obvious the longer the game continues - physical reality.
you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
damn real talk infinite
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I didn't have time to read the article, but as a Libertarian I definitely don't support the government being given the power to steal from people who do work to pay people who don't work.
See, MDogg seems to believe that Barack Obama and them just reach into their pocket and give because they are so generous, and that the money that the government gives is out of generosity and for the common good of everyone. And if the government would only just give more, more in health care, more security, give more jobs, and just give and give and give, the world would be a better place.
The problem is, the money doesn't come out of the politicians pockets and it doesn't come from the sky, it is THEFT, it is STEALING and we all pay for it one way or another.
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