deathrow facts & rumors *stolen from N-M

[krzieg]

don't know how much of it is true........but a good read fo sho


Most of the money to fund The Chronic sessions was provided by the money Suge got out of Vanilla Ice from his ghostwriter Chocolate. As a result, Death Row also let Chocolate Record a full album. It wasn’t what Suge considered Death Row material because of it’s possessiveness. It was eventually released on their original sub label Sonar. It’s a rare fact that Chocolate’s Life-N-A-Day is the first album recorded & finished by Death Row Records.

Chocolate introduced Suge to The Convictz. Although signed to Death Row. They never made any releases except Tre-Duece on Life-N-A Day. Suge & Dre tried to convince The D.O.C. to write Tre-Duece songs & have Tre-Duece ghost voice The D.O.C. on his sophomore album. The D.O.C. was to limp sink Tre-Duece rapping D.O.C.’s lyrics. Unfortunately D.O.C. Didn’t agree with the idea. D.O.C. thought Dre could make him a hot album regardless of his vocal damage but Dre didn’t believe he could. D.O.C. eventually left Death Row after Murder Was The Case & stole many unreleased Dre beats meant for Helter Skelter & verses he wrote 4 Dre. The Material though didn’t make The D.O.C.’s sophomore album. Instead D.O.C. wrote news with Exotic D trying to rap like he had his voice back. Although the album was successful, D.O.C. has apologized to fans for it.

BJ The Mocking Bird who was featured on The Chronic. Was early on signed to Death Row but only dropped one other track on the Players Club Soundtrack. He latter became an executive at Murder INC records. Talked on Rebels Symphony off The Murderers Compilation & latter stared with Tyrin Turner (Menace 2 Society) in Queens Drug Kingpin’s directorial Debut Crime Partners.

Dr. Dre produced a track for future Murder INC artist Caddillac Tah for the Deep Cover Soundtrack. But ended up releasing the song with Jewell instead.

Chris “The Glove” Taylor formally of Po’ Broke & Lonely Co-Produced the majority of The Chronic with Gregski & minor work from Chocolate.

MF Grimm & Chocolate are rumored of ghost wrote the majority of The Chronic. Although others say it was D.O.C. & Snoop Dogg.

DJ Quik & Chocolate both managed by Suge recorded for The Chronic, but were initially replaced by RBX & Dogg Pound as they were not official signed to the label.

During The Chronic. Dre invited Geto Boys member Bushwick Bill to record on The Chronic in hopes of signing him to a solo deal thus resulting in him only being on 1 track. Scarface was rumored to be pissed off he wasn’t asked instead to be on it.

Latter on Death Row returned the favor by Dr. Dre, 2Pac & Daz Dillinger collaborating on Untouchable in 96 but the album was pushed back to 1996. During the recording sessions. Pac also recorded with Scarface & Rap-A-Lot’s Oakland protégé Seagram who died the same year as Pac. His material along with other OG material from Scarface & Makaveli as well as actual unheard tracks Mike Dean stole from Daz who stole from Suge made up 2Face which Ameru records prevented from being released.

K-Solo & Lady Or Rage were next to come out before Pac signed to Death Row. K-Solo left soon afterwards.

Suge owned JT The Bigga Figga a favor & promised to JT that Get Low & Death Row would release a Gamblaz & Dogg Pound album. Although a few songs were recorded. The 2 Groups began to argue and the album was never finished.

Due to the enormous success of All Eyez On Me. Suge decided Lady Or Rage’s album Eargasm wasn’t good enough and scraped it. She recored a new album Necessary Roughness in 97. The album didn’t due as well as expected.
The Lady Of Rage went to pick up a check from Death Row, but she didn't schedule it. So she went all out on the offices. That was the end of her Death Row career

Lady Or Rage was replaced by V.K. who Tha Realest brought to Death Row along with many other Southern artists during 98-99 in what some call The Death Row invasion of The South which also included Chocolate, Jr. Nites, Thin Corleone, Picasso, Doobie, El Dorado & others.

V.K. a.k.a. Vanesha Knight was taken off Death Row's roster during the Chronic 2000 tour for demanding a hair dresser, before every show.

Stretch’s boss E Money Bags snitched on Pac during The Rape Trial. Others also rumor Stretch did as well which caused Pac to end their friendship after getting out of Jail. Many also say E Money Bags got Stretch hooked on Crack in 95 before he died. After his death & the break up of Live Squad. E Money Bags eventually created G-Unit with Marvolous AKA Tony Yayo, 50 Cent, Wax-A-Million & Bang’Em Smurf. Later Wax left & 50 replaced him with Lloyd Banks, E Money Bags died, Bang’Em was kicked out & replaced by Young Buck who had just left Juvenile’s UTP Playaz who had originally collaborated with 50 & many say 50 stole their swag for G-Unit.

C-Bo recorded 2 other unreleased songs with Pac for All Eyez On Me. It’s rumored 1 of them was on his unreleased album he latter did for Death Row.

Rappin 4 Tay claims he should have been on All Eyez On Me more which suggests he did at least more then 3 songs for the album.

Mannie Fresh offered everyone at Death Row a platinum teeth if they did a compilation. The compilation was never finished because Mannie realized he couldn’t cover everyone’s teeth with the money skimmed off artists on the label who went platinum such as Juvenile & Lil’ Wayne.

Spice-1 was locked up during the recording of All Eyez On Me and for that reason didn’t make the album.

Blunt Tyme was an incomplete song by Dre. RBX, Sam Sneed, K-Solo, Lady Or Rage & others all recored verse for it. The song was never finished & put together. Latter on it was remixed with an unreleased Pac verse & was intended for a Pac & Dre remix album that was never finshed. It’s thought by many that the rare bootlegged remix is actually a real original Pac & Dre unreleased collabo for All Eyez On Me.

Thug Life members Raided R & Macadoshis wouldn’t go with Death Row & be involved in business with Suge. Thous then not being in Outlaw Immortalz.
Outlaw Immortalz record Hard Labor (Original), M.O.B., When We Ride & several other songs around the same time as All Eyez On Me was being recorded. Mopreme & Big Syke after the release of the album left the group due to disputes with Suge. Suge prevented both from working with Pac afterwards. Hard Labor OG featuring C-Bo & Big Lurch the cannibal was lost but re-recorded with the Lawz without Fatal, Pac & Kadafi.

Kadafi mostly screwed around with a Latina girl who lied about her age when they met & turned out to be 15, she later became a porn star. After Kadafi’s Death She pleaded for Death Row to release a debut solo post hummer album by Death Row up until 2000. She was unsuccessful at convincing them & ended up stealing 7 solo tracks Kadafi recorded & several Fatal-N-Felony tracks that she copied for Hussein Fatal. She has a whole guarded room full of several pics, homemade pronos, rare Death Row posters including the original cover & album copy of 2 Gangsta 4 Radio that Suge didn’t approve of. Kadafi’s girl was taken off the cover because Dave Kenner found out she had been only 16 in 1996 & convinced Death Row to sever ties with her. Yaz has also advised her not to brag out being Kadafi’s girl & has denied their relationship. She had sung on the Fatal-N-Felony album, did a tribute with Fatal & Spice-1 but since then hasn’t recorded any new music. Her guarded room is a replecate of the room she had when she was with Kadafi only decorated with rare Pics & Posters of Pac, Outlawz, Fatal-N-Felony & other stuff.

The Fatal-N-Felony was finished & featured many collabos with many duos & groups including Dogg Pound, Luniz, Cydal, Kausion, Red & Method man, CMC & also featured Bay Area legends such as Dru Down, Spice-1, Shock G, Mac-Mall, Ray Luv, Streethugz as well as Treach, Capital L.S., Asu, DBG’z, Mic Geronimo & others.

Kadafi & Fatal were featured on an unreleased CMC collabos album that never was released on TVT records. Kadafi also used CMC for the Live Squad & affiliates beef that Pac mostly only dissed subliminally & Let Fatal & Kadafi diss.

Kadafi got CMC, Mic Geronimo, Royal Flush & Freaky Tah of Irv Gotti formally DJ Irv’s original label Blunts Recordings/TVT an interview with Suge as potential artists for Death Row East. Suge was impressed and offered them a deal. But then Pac died, Death Row East never happened. Irv had real problems with TVT because of promotion. Irv says he would’ve signed his label over to Death Row had Russell Simmons not offered him a deal with Def Jam.

Kadafi & Fatal left The Lawz after Pac died. The only reason Kadafi remained on tracks was cause he died. Both left because The Lawz had signed to Death Row which Pac told them not to.

Kadafi’s mom only Ha mostly Pre-Death Row, Dramacydal & bootlegged tracks featuring Kadafi as well as some early Fatal-N-Felony & Tha Havenotz original songs.

Storm retired but since then has come out of retirement & joined Tha Havenotz. Napolean & Yukmouth due to their parents dieing were originally also involved in the group. But Kadafi’s mom has wanted no involvement with Napolean due to his cousin killing Kadafi & has edited him off of all of their songs. The original idea was to get a bunch or young rapping, orphan kids & they’d be the 3rd generation of Tha Havenotz. Candyman was the only official member. Pac originally called them Tha Bastardz.

Although 6 Feet Deep’s album was never released. 69 sung the hook on As the World Turns & other unreleased Pac & Outlawz songs while Six2 sung on several Chocolate Bandit & Tha Realest unreleased songs.

Pac was jealous of the attention Dre was given to Sam Sneed instead of him during the making of All Eyez On Me. This is allegedly the real reason why Pac beat Sam Sneed up.

During The Poppaz Got A New Funk Sessions. Dre mostly worked from non-cali rappers such as Drama (of Queens), Shariff (of Brooklyn), K-Solo (of Queens), Sam Sneed (of Pittsburg), J. Flexx (of Dayton) all of which caused friction between Dre & Pac.

Bizzy Bone has claimed that he is the only Bone Thug who ever met, new & collaborated with Pac & that all the rest of the members should feel lucky Bizzy let them get on the remix. But others have claimed that Mike Mosley & others have recorded sessions for One Nation with Bone Thugz, Outlawz & Pac though none has leaked.

Threat AKA Deadly Threat of LA ZU was friends of Pac before signing he signed to Death Row & was featured on Strictly 4 My Niggaz. After signing with Death Row. Pac discovered Threat was also already friends with Snoop Dogg who had been collaborating with him & was considering making him a part of The LBC Crew. Pac convinced Snoop to leave him out as Pac & Snoop would both Executive Produce Threat’z debut solo album. The album was never finished as Pac & Snoop were both busy with other projects.

Pac was ment to be on the Bay Area Ballers remix of I got 5 On It but didn’t make it because of scheduling difficulties.

Although never rapping on the Eric B & Rakim albums. Eric B broke up the group by wanting to due a solo album first, Rakim 2nd & the last duo album to end their contract. Eric B took to long developing a style & getting ghost writers. Despite not being able to rap. Dre picked him to be the CEO “Dr. Dre” of Death Row East although his producing style is way outdated.

Pac was impressed by Luniz for not trying to suck his dick for a guest appearance on their debut album unlike most Bay Area & Oakland artists. He dug their sound & that they made it without Pac & were one of the only Bay Area artists to go platinum. Not to mention being good friends with their mentor Dru Down.

During 98. Daz & Noble considered themselves the top artists of Death Row & tried to convince Suge to spit the Death Row tracks up amongst them & other artists. Suge was against the idea.

Chocolate Bandit was given his own short lived sub label on Death Row which had his brother 2Gun, Jr. Nites, Thin Corleone, Picasso & others.

Chocolate Bandit & Tha Realest are rumored to of bootlegged most of the original unreleased 2Pac bootlegged material. It’s rumored that afterwards out of fear of being found out. Tha Realest & Chocolate had a fake fall out that eventually turned into a real beef as both thought for the spot of the number 1 Death Row artist from Texas. Eventually out of pressure, Chocolate Bandit left.

When Chocolate Bandit was released from Death Row, he had to pay back a signing fee to Death Row, & give back his chain.

Despite a claim by Tha Realest. The Terror Twinz are not Warren G’s former duo Twinz.

K9, Kurt Kobane, & Tha Realest all lived in the same condo.

K9 was apparently sent to jail once for fucking a 13 year old girl.

K9 got dropped from the label by pressure of Tha Realest who was mad at K9 for dissing The Outlawz in Gangstaed Out. Although dissing the Lawz. K9 has begged Hussein Fatal to come back to Cali & help resurrect The West.

Young Doobie was brought to Death Row by Tha Realest who was his Texas homeboy & discovered him. He soon picked Doobie to replace Chocolate Bandit though Suge didn’t put as much focus on him as
Chocolate Bandit.

Young Doobie had his chain snatched in Texas while on the Chronic 2000 tour, & had to literally fight to get back.

Tha Realest apparently left Death Row after they signed G.P. who was the new diss guy.

G.P. was to take the No Limit Beef up a notch. Suge got Keita Rock to convince Numskull & Yukmouth to re-join as The Luniz on G.P.’s Death Row album. The Luniz had already broke up but agreed despite G.P. being from Sacramento & not sharing the same style as them. Them 3 & Dru Down recorded many tracks for his unreleased album.

G.P.’s debut featured the original remix of Don’t Stop by 2Pac on a No Limit diss with Dru Down & Luniz.

G.P.s was dropped & started his own label after releasing Finally Independent which pissed Suge off since he claimed that G.P.’s independent debut took away the demand & buzz for his Death Row release.

Although leaving Death Row. G.P. still has his Death Row Chain.

Despite claims by Noble. He is not the official last Outlaw. That honor was given to Gonzoe who was latter kicked out the group for fucking Noble’s wife & rumors are he messed with Napolean’ girl as well.

Despite finishing their debut movie What It iz. Daz & Kurupt were unable to find distribution. Latter on the movie was bought by Anetta Keys. Who didn’t buy the soundtrack.

Allotta Collabos for Soopafly’s debut album on Death Row ended up making his debut album that wasn’t on Death Row.

During Kurupt’s return to Death Row. Soopafly & Daz planned to become Tha Pound. They released 1 song on the What’s The Worst That Could Happen Soundtrack.

During Trey-Dee splitting up with Snoop & joining IV Life. Along with Jayo Felony & Daz’s beef. Suge planned to make Trey-Dee & Jayo as Tha Thug Pound. The group only did 1 song called Way 2 Crazy released on Rush Hour Soundtrack. Although they recorded 4 songs for the Thug Pound album on Death Row. None have leaked. The 2 have also collaborated on Ride Or Die with Yukmouth & Spice-1 & were both on Got Beef the number 1 single off Tha Eastsiderz debut album which didn’t feature Goldie Loc.

The beat on Toss It Up is actually the Original beat of Yo Diggity by Black Street & Dr. Dre.

Fatal was allegedly replaced by Noble on Bomb First, Hail Mary, Jus Like Daddy. Other songs like Me & My Girlfriend & Against All Odds were alertly mixed & remastered with differences in the original production. 1 verse was scrapped for Me & My Girlfriend. Lil’ Homiez also didn’t make the cut along with Catchin Feeling which was incomplete.

The idea for the Daz & JT album allegedly comes from a song both did with Pac & Jodeci called the Finer Thangs.

Although no material ever surfaced. The knowledge of Mark Morrison being a former member of Death Row Records has given him more buzz then most short lived Death Row artists amongst the fans especially over seas.

During 1999 & 2000 Treach considered signing to Death Row to due a solo album. Although never officially signed, he did go to the Source Awards with Death Row wearing a chain. It’s alleged he recorded an album but never finished it.

C-Bo is also rumored to of allegedly recorded an album for Death Row that was never released although never being officially signed.

Keita Rock & Big Hutch of Above The Law ran Death Row during 2000. Keita Rock was a crip & often collaborated with Crooked I, Gonzoe, CJ Mac & Swoop G & tend to diss Aftermath allot.

Allot of Keita Rock’s debut album is material from Death Row. Keita Rock’s producer Kenny Mclout produced for Bone Thugz as well as 2Pac & many other artists at Death Row.

CJ Mac mostly was with Death Row to diss Dr. Dre as the real OG from Ice Cube’s clique. He was to Mack-10 what Trey-Dee is to Snoop. Credibility.

CJ Mac got Fat Joe to collaborate with Death Row. But things fell apart when Fat Joe begun working with Snoop Dogg.

Because of DPG-Unit & G-Unit eventually signing Spider Loc which coincidently broke DPG-Unit up. Kurupt tried to sign Domination & Bang’Em Smurf to Death Row. Suge oftered to release Domination, Ali Vegas & Fredro Star of Onyx’s Guerilla Gang album on Death Row. But 50 prevented them from using the name Guerilla Gang.

Daz paid P. Diddy 2 Million to hype a song with him for The Death Row Killa compilation. Puffy didn’t even diss Suge.

SKG remade several 2Pac songs originally featuring Storm & Sista Soulja that remain unreleased during the Until The End Of Time recording sessions.

Irv Gotti said he saw the same thing he scene in Jaz-O, Mic Geronimo, Jay-Z, DMX & Ja Rule in Crooked I.

Johnny J produced for Ja Rule & Pras for The Movie Turn It Up’s Sound Track which was never released.

Many Murder INC members including Black Child, Charli Baltimore, Ashanti, Ja Rule, CMC, Hussein Fatal (affiliate) & others recorded for Say Hi To The Badguy.

Crooked I & Eastwood formed strong friendships with The Murderers & collaborated often with them & were regulars at parties at The Murder Mansion in L.A. along with Shade Sheist, Vin Diesel, Ving Rhames & others.

Shade Sheist got Kurupt & Ja to squash beef.

During 02-04 Death Row, Murder Inc & Rap-A-Lot had a strong alliance & Planned tones of collaborations to help save the company.

Suge had plans to start a publishing company with J. Prince & Irv Gotti called SPG Music Group, but it never happened.

Saiku 720 of Lakey The Kid’s 848. Is also a producer & co-founding member of Black Child of The INC’s Hood Stock. Hood Stock is an independent clique co-signed with Murder INC. Hood Stock & Death Row East have joined forces & conduct most business together. Both plan to do a Don Diva collabo mixtape.

Unreleased competed projects by Death Row artist’s side project groups
LBC Crew.
Tray Dee, Techniec, Bad Azz, So Sentrelle, & Lil C-Style’s debut album was finished but masters were destroyed by Lil’ C Style over a money dispute with Snoop Dogg. So Sentrelle left Snoop to do a duo album with Blue Cantrell.
The Gang
Big C Style, Lil Flossy and Daz submitted a 13 track album that was also turned down by suge.
Bad Habitz
Finished an album demo around the same time as the Young Soldiers (Latter Relativez) & O.F.T.B. Suge found Young Soldiers’s demo better & they were picked ahead of O.F.T.B. Suge found Bad Habitz demo the weakest & they never ended up signing with Death Row.
Texas Boys & The Last Circle
Tha Realest finished the album with Doobie & El Dorado who latter signed with The D.O.C. The debut was submitted to Suge but turned down. The group soon after broke up. Doobie & Realest latter formed The Last Circle. Their debut was also never released duo to 3 members incarceration.
Tha Original Eastsidaz
Originally a side group in The LBC Crew. Lil’ C Style & Trey-Dee recorded almost half an album. Latter Lil’ C Style left & was replaced by Daz after Kurupt left Death Row & broke up Tha Dogg Pound. Latter Trey-Dee left Death Row & Snoop Dogg released Tha Eastsidaz with Trey-Dee & Goldie Loc.
One Nation
Many of One Nation’s hasn’t leaked. Although rumored to of been competed. Pac wanted several artists on the compilation that didn’t make it before he died thus the rumored not being 100 percent true. Suge gave Scarface his songs recorded for the compilation. Mutual Friends Napolean & Trey-Dee invited Jayo to recorded a song with them & Pac called Wordz 2 Tha Wize. The song was eventually to be released on an album recorded by Jayo Felony & Napolean but wasn’t released because of Napolean went to Mecca, became Muslim & eventually left the busines

[DTG Entertainment]

Most of this shit is false.

[krzieg]

Most of this shit is false.

yah i agree with cha.

e-money bagz was down with 50?

[DTG Entertainment]

don't know how much of it is true........but a good read fo sho



V.K. a.k.a. Vanesha Knight was taken off Death Row's roster during the Chronic 2000 tour for demanding a hair dresser, before every show. <--- Legit according to Am7, but it wasn't an official tour.

When Chocolate Bandit was released from Death Row, he had to pay back a signing fee to Death Row, & give back his chain. <--- This is true. Confirmed by me and Bo Blunt.

K9, Kurt Kobane, & Tha Realest all lived in the same condo. <--- This is true. Confirmed by K9.

Young Doobie had his chain snatched in Texas while on the Chronic 2000 tour, & had to literally fight to get back. <--- This is true according to Am7.

Most of the rest are pure b/s.

[TraceOneInfinite]

Blunt Tyme was an incomplete song by Dre. RBX, Sam Sneed, K-Solo, Lady Or Rage & others all recored verse for it. The song was never finished & put together. Latter on it was remixed with an unreleased Pac verse & was intended for a Pac & Dre remix album that was never finshed. It’s thought by many that the rare bootlegged remix is actually a real original Pac & Dre unreleased collabo for All Eyez On Me.

During Trey-Dee splitting up with Snoop & joining IV Life. Along with Jayo Felony & Daz’s beef. Suge planned to make Trey-Dee & Jayo as Tha Thug Pound. The group only did 1 song called Way 2 Crazy released on Rush Hour Soundtrack. Although they recorded 4 songs for the Thug Pound album on Death Row. None have leaked. The 2 have also collaborated on Ride Or Die with Yukmouth & Spice-1 & were both on Got Beef the number 1 single off Tha Eastsiderz debut album which didn’t feature Goldie Loc.

-In Dre's cover issue of The Source the magazine described listening to a song in which RBX was dissing the Dogg Pound saying the "Dogg Pound had a pimp" (probably to mean Suge).  So the bit about RBX is probably Bullshit, because around that time he was busy dissing death row artists not working with them.

-Tray-Dee was working with Def Jam at the time, as Def Jam was signing many West Coast acts, such as Warren G, The Twinz, Dove Shack, South Central Cartel, etc.  TrayDee did the "Dropping Bombz" track under Def Jam for The Show soundtrack, and likewise the Rush Hour soundtrack was a Def Jam album and that's why Tray Dee was on it, because Tray Dee was working for Def Jam.  So saying that his music at the time was Death Row related is BULLSHIT!



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[NewYork Pope]

Most of this shit is false.

Yeah, like this one here:
"Dr. Dre produced a track for future Murder INC artist Caddillac Tah for the Deep Cover Soundtrack. But ended up releasing the song with Jewell instead."

Deep Cover was in 91. I played ball with Caddillac Tah almost all the time Liberty Park. he was VERY young kid, and not rapping. Stating hustling then dude started rapping later on. This is total BS. Murder Inc didn't exist nor was he trying to get on.

[DTG Entertainment]

I'm honestly thinking about writing a big book on Death Row Records, so we never have to deal with these rumors and shit again.

[fabtoxicp]

I'm honestly thinking about writing a big book on Death Row Records, so we never have to deal with these rumors and shit again.

lmao!! 
yup, n im goin to write a book on Bad Boy Records - how bout havin the same release-date for both of our books, n see which one is doin better? 
we can have a book-signing together too.. 

[DTG Entertainment]

I'm honestly thinking about writing a big book on Death Row Records, so we never have to deal with these rumors and shit again.

lmao!! 
yup, n im goin to write a book on Bad Boy Records - how bout havin the same release-date for both of our books, n see which one is doin better? 
we can have a book-signing together too.. 

Well, sir, Ronin Ro wrote a book about Death Row in which most everything was biased or turned out to be speculation. It's not that hard to get a book written or published, Mr. Ignorant.

[fabtoxicp]

relax, gangster - im just fuckin witchu. good luck to u and ur book..
ima download the digital-edition free, and not pay for it.. 

[MarshColin]

This thread should be deleted because it's just gonna cause a lot of confusion to the people that don't know which ones are true and which ones are false. Then we gotta deal with people asking about more bullshit rumors.

[krzieg]

I'm honestly thinking about writing a big book on Death Row Records, so we never have to deal with these rumors and shit again.

yeah u always seem to drop knowledge about tha row & always providing links to new 2pac leaks. +1

how do u know so much about tha row anyways?

[EFFeX]

This thread should be deleted because it's just gonna cause a lot of confusion to the people that don't know which ones are true and which ones are false. Then we gotta deal with people asking about more bullshit rumors.

Ehh, this list has been around for a minute...

I think that anyone that cares has seen this stuff already anyway.

[o g s u e s o n e]

"Daz paid P. Diddy 2 Million to hype a song with him for The Death Row Killa compilation. Puffy didn’t even diss Suge."

ROFL!

[krzieg]

"Daz paid P. Diddy 2 Million to hype a song with him for The Death Row Killa compilation. Puffy didn’t even diss Suge."

ROFL!

hahah that would b funni but false