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Quote from: ikke on March 16, 2010, 11:46:46 AMQuote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 16, 2010, 11:36:46 AMnah thats what i meant thowho creates us, thingsare we or arent we created by someone else?to be here etc....we're all the product of an amazingly coincidental chainreaction.I don't believe you! That's all part of your "legally fucking kids and dogs in public" agenda!
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 16, 2010, 11:36:46 AMnah thats what i meant thowho creates us, thingsare we or arent we created by someone else?to be here etc....we're all the product of an amazingly coincidental chainreaction.
nah thats what i meant thowho creates us, thingsare we or arent we created by someone else?to be here etc....
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
lol@ you.....oh wait....lol@ you again. The problem with your cult, is that it throws common sense completely out the window. Proving that there WAS life on other planets at some point...and that we exist...and there are as many solar systems/planets as there are...common sense would allow you to believe that life on another planet, somewhere in the Universe is a strong possibility. Common sense, in your case, allows you to believe that there is an invisible man in the sky who watches over us....with absolutely no proof of him existing...EVER. If you did not communicate your paragragh well enough...forgive me for not understanding your jibberish. Is it possible there is a god? Of course its possible. Just as its possible those invisible rats are running around your room. There is no proof of them ever existing....just as there is no proof of a god ever existing. Their existence is just as valid as your god. So keep worshipping sheep. Its no wonder your name is Shallow.
Forget God the creator for a second and lets simply look at Jesus. There's more evidence that Jesus Christ existed than there is for aliens on other planets. Dozens to hundreds of written accounts by people claiming to have seen Christ are documented. Most are dismissed by the Church as Gospel but the written gnostic accounts are as historical as anything written for that time period. Luke the Evangelist is an accredited historian, and Saul of Tarsus is a prominent historical figure that warrants authority. You can call these guys liars if you want, but the accounts of early Christianity from just after Jesus are no less valid than the accounts of Julius Caesar. The only difference what they are reporting is something you have no faith in being real.The followers of Christ went into hiding and ran from the Romans when Jesus was captured, and then, after they said he appeared to them, they came out of hiding and gladly gave up their own lives for their religion. Something must have happened for them to go from scared sheep to standing strong as they were being fed to lions.
can you give examples of evidence of jesus existin?
but who was the highest in power, of those?
Before Tacitus, Suetonius or Josephus, Thallus wrote about the crucifixion of Jesus. His writing date to circa 52 A.D. and the passage on Jesus was contained in Thallus' work on the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan War to 52 A.D. Thallus noted that darkness fell on the land at the time of the crucifixion. He wrote that such a phenomenon was caused by an eclipse. Though Christ was not proclaimed a deity until the fourth century, Pliny the Younger, a Roman author and administrator who served as the governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor, wrote in 112 A.D., two hundred years before the "deity" proclamation, that Christians in Bithynia worshipped Christ.
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 16, 2010, 05:15:34 PMbut who was the highest in power, of those?Highest in power? I don't know what you mean.
Quote from: M Dogg on March 16, 2010, 09:26:31 PMBefore Tacitus, Suetonius or Josephus, Thallus wrote about the crucifixion of Jesus. His writing date to circa 52 A.D. and the passage on Jesus was contained in Thallus' work on the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan War to 52 A.D. Thallus noted that darkness fell on the land at the time of the crucifixion. He wrote that such a phenomenon was caused by an eclipse. Though Christ was not proclaimed a deity until the fourth century, Pliny the Younger, a Roman author and administrator who served as the governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor, wrote in 112 A.D., two hundred years before the "deity" proclamation, that Christians in Bithynia worshipped Christ. So The Gospel of John wasn't around until the 4th century?
Quote from: Sikotic on March 16, 2010, 01:18:00 AMQuote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 15, 2010, 09:17:31 PMgod isnt real? lolQuote from: Sikotic on March 13, 2010, 03:22:29 PMQuote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 02:41:40 PMUnderstandable....but refusal to believe in God? I like your choice of words. "Refusal", like he is denying some concrete, provable fact lol.Show me the proof.
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 15, 2010, 09:17:31 PMgod isnt real? lolQuote from: Sikotic on March 13, 2010, 03:22:29 PMQuote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 02:41:40 PMUnderstandable....but refusal to believe in God? I like your choice of words. "Refusal", like he is denying some concrete, provable fact lol.Show me the proof.
god isnt real? lolQuote from: Sikotic on March 13, 2010, 03:22:29 PMQuote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 02:41:40 PMUnderstandable....but refusal to believe in God? I like your choice of words. "Refusal", like he is denying some concrete, provable fact lol.
Quote from: QuietTruth on March 13, 2010, 02:41:40 PMUnderstandable....but refusal to believe in God? I like your choice of words. "Refusal", like he is denying some concrete, provable fact lol.
Understandable....but refusal to believe in God?
are you people that dumb and slow...lol...
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Quote from: Shallow on March 16, 2010, 10:16:46 PMQuote from: M Dogg on March 16, 2010, 09:26:31 PMBefore Tacitus, Suetonius or Josephus, Thallus wrote about the crucifixion of Jesus. His writing date to circa 52 A.D. and the passage on Jesus was contained in Thallus' work on the Eastern Mediterranean world from the Trojan War to 52 A.D. Thallus noted that darkness fell on the land at the time of the crucifixion. He wrote that such a phenomenon was caused by an eclipse. Though Christ was not proclaimed a deity until the fourth century, Pliny the Younger, a Roman author and administrator who served as the governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor, wrote in 112 A.D., two hundred years before the "deity" proclamation, that Christians in Bithynia worshipped Christ. So The Gospel of John wasn't around until the 4th century?There is much debate on the times the Gospels are written. I remember my religion class, when studying the New Testament you can tell when it was written given the stories. The Gospel of John has the most anti-Jew view of the Gospels, meaning it was more than likely written when Christians were dealing with persecution from the Jews. It was written for a time that deals with early Christians views on how they feel they were treated. John if you read it is very unique to from the other gospels. It was more than likely written for a different time, and more than likely written after the other gospels were written. Much of what is said in John are not said in the other Gospels, and what is said in the other Gospels are not said in John. Jesus tells no stories in John, he doesn't have 12 disciples, the eclipse that both Matthew and Roman records prove after Jesus's crucifixion are not mentioned in John. John should be seen as more of a sign of the times in early Christian life than word for word what happened to Jesus.
How does that prove without a shadow of a doubt that some being you have never seen living in a place called heaven which you have never seen created all of those things?
That makes no damn sense. AND that's an unfair representation of "creation". Where are the hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, cancer tumors, handicapped/disfigured people and all the negative things that the all loving God supposedly created too? Or does he only get credit for all the nice things that were created and none of the fucked up shit?