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Raiders get themselves a QB!!!!
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 06:19:59 PM ---wait so doesnt that make russell not at 100% fault...? lol
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2010, 07:36:58 PM ---you guys could have Peyton Manning & you wouldn't win 8 games lol.
the Raiders are just fucked; if they make the Playoffs within the next 10 seasons (unless Al Davis dies in the next two), i'll be shocked.
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Of course it's not all his fault. Dude was thrown as a rookie starting on a team that sucks and has no stability. If Jamarcus Russel was signed by the Steelers and played bench up until now he'd be ready to start and Big Ben would have been traded weeks ago.
and Cham, for the record if Peyton had gotten all of training camp and all of the preseason to work with that offense they would have won in weeks 1, 3, 8, 10, 14, and 16 no doubt, with weeks 4, 12 and 17 being hit or miss. So 11-5 with Manning, with a possibility of 12-4.
Manning's on field talent alone would have gotten them 3 more wins. His offensive coordinating and mid week practices mixed with his play calling would have gotten them 3 more.
For the record I believe that if Sean Payton and Drew Brees came to Oakland for last year they'd be 12-4. Peyton is just a bit lower than those two combined.
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there is absolutely no way he would be starting for the Steelers lol. The situation he was drafted into...has nothing to do with showing up to camp fat as hell...and not giving ANY effort during the offseason, or during training camp. The QB should be the first guy in the film room....and the last guy leaving. He's a lazy ass. That has nothing to do with anyone...but him.
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He was brought in as the saviour of a leaderless organization with no stable head coach. His first year he sat on the bench and waited for his shot and the coach he had was one a rookie and two cut mid way through the first year Russel gets to start.
Now going to Pit would not have happened in any way shape or form. The Steelers never would have had the first pick and they wouldn't even have used it on him. I'm just saying that he been in a no bullshit organization like Patriots and had a coach like Belicheck he'd be a completely different player.
All young stars need strong guidance and in Oakland their is none. Every rookie QB would fail there. I said Peyton would get them to 11-5, but if Peyton started in the 2007 Oakland as a rookie he'd have been cut by now.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:28:30 PM ---aite as long as others agree that he wasnt and isnt 100%at fault...cuz IMO he isnt and im not a raider fan...but the way everyone went in on him and still do is uncalled for......other qb's never caught the same heat as russell did...and please dont say it was cuz of the guranteed money..lol
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:24:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 06:19:59 PM ---wait so doesnt that make russell not at 100% fault...? lol
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2010, 07:36:58 PM ---you guys could have Peyton Manning & you wouldn't win 8 games lol.
the Raiders are just fucked; if they make the Playoffs within the next 10 seasons (unless Al Davis dies in the next two), i'll be shocked.
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nobody ever claimed he was 100% at fault. But if youre educated on football then you understand how much of an effect a QB THAT bad as on an entire organization. We arent just talking about how much he hurts the team ON the field. But when you draft a QB #1....you spend the next 2/3 years building AROUND that guy. When he gives you absolutely nothing....you end up sucking, and you end up having to start over. Again, all of this is for an educated football fan. You gotta do some reading man...learn up on the game. There is a reason why he will more then likely be cut by the Raiders. lol CUT! Because they wouldnt be able to trade him for a Double Cheeseburger off the dollar menu right now. He has a VERY strong shot at going down as the biggest bust in NFL history. He will compete with Ryan Leaf. But I can honestly say I would take Leaf over JaMarcus...based on what we have seen from both. And Im sure Cham is knowledgeable enough about the game that he was making a joke...and knows better.
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of course he isnt 100% at fault. Im sayin....not 100% at fault for the teams struggles. He IS 100% at fault for himself becoming the biggest bust ever. At first I defended the guy SO much cus he was drafted by a team with a lot of turmoil at the time. But his lack of effort whatsoever...is all on him. And THAT is the reason he will go down as the biggest bust ever. The team was already struggling when they got him...and he actually made them worse. And when you draft a QB with the #1 overall pick...you would expect that your team would be better with that guy. He was worse than any QB theyve had....EVER really lol. If you can bring in a guy like Gradkowski last year...who wouldnt start on ONE team in the league....and they team place twice as good with him under center, there is clearly a problem with JaMarcus. No one can argue how much he hurt the team.
you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
damn see finally others are statin what ive been sayin all this time and will always say unless russell tells me differently....lol
free the cable guy and russell...
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 26, 2010, 07:41:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:25:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 26, 2010, 07:23:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 06:19:59 PM ---wait so doesnt that make russell not at 100% fault...? lol
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2010, 07:36:58 PM ---you guys could have Peyton Manning & you wouldn't win 8 games lol.
the Raiders are just fucked; if they make the Playoffs within the next 10 seasons (unless Al Davis dies in the next two), i'll be shocked.
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Of course it's not all his fault. Dude was thrown as a rookie starting on a team that sucks and has no stability. If Jamarcus Russel was signed by the Steelers and played bench up until now he'd be ready to start and Big Ben would have been traded weeks ago.
and Cham, for the record if Peyton had gotten all of training camp and all of the preseason to work with that offense they would have won in weeks 1, 3, 8, 10, 14, and 16 no doubt, with weeks 4, 12 and 17 being hit or miss. So 11-5 with Manning, with a possibility of 12-4.
Manning's on field talent alone would have gotten them 3 more wins. His offensive coordinating and mid week practices mixed with his play calling would have gotten them 3 more.
For the record I believe that if Sean Payton and Drew Brees came to Oakland for last year they'd be 12-4. Peyton is just a bit lower than those two combined.
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there is absolutely no way he would be starting for the Steelers lol. The situation he was drafted into...has nothing to do with showing up to camp fat as hell...and not giving ANY effort during the offseason, or during training camp. The QB should be the first guy in the film room....and the last guy leaving. He's a lazy ass. That has nothing to do with anyone...but him.
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He was brought in as the saviour of a leaderless organization with no stable head coach. His first year he sat on the bench and waited for his shot and the coach he had was one a rookie and two cut mid way through the first year Russel gets to start.
Now going to Pit would not have happened in any way shape or form. The Steelers never would have had the first pick and they wouldn't even have used it on him. I'm just saying that he been in a no bullshit organization like Patriots and had a coach like Belicheck he'd be a completely different player.
All young stars need strong guidance and in Oakland their is none. Every rookie QB would fail there. I said Peyton would get them to 11-5, but if Peyton started in the 2007 Oakland as a rookie he'd have been cut by now.
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lol you sound like me 2 yrs ago. Until I watched the guy all last year. I made so many excuses for him...including making statements like..."it would so difficult for any rookie QB to step into this situation". I stopped making excuses for him when I realized that he was doing absolutely nothing to improve himself....AND....on the field could not complete a pass to a wide open RB on a screen pass. That has NOTHING to do with the organization. That has to do with a complete lack of skill that you would expect from even a high school QB. Every QB who gets drafted as the #1 pick....or even in the top 5 is going to an organization with poor leadership. Thats why they have that pick in the first place lol. Not every young QB has as little drive as JaMarcus does. You make that claim about Peyton, which to me is ridiculous. But if you go the other way....you put JaMarcus on the Colts...and their deciding on what they wanna do with their top 5 pick next year.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:44:24 PM ---damn see finally others are statin what ive been sayin all this time and will always say unless russell tells me differently....lol
free the cable guy and russell...
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Cable hasnt been the problem
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