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Raiders get themselves a QB!!!!
you gon always be my latin queen bitch:
aite cool at least you agree wit me there.....but way too many hated on the cable guy
and how did they draft someone that doesnt like to play what they drafted them for? lol
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--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:44:24 PM ---damn see finally others are statin what ive been sayin all this time and will always say unless russell tells me differently....lol
free the cable guy and russell...
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Cable hasnt been the problem
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Shallow:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:42:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:28:30 PM ---aite as long as others agree that he wasnt and isnt 100%at fault...cuz IMO he isnt and im not a raider fan...but the way everyone went in on him and still do is uncalled for......other qb's never caught the same heat as russell did...and please dont say it was cuz of the guranteed money..lol
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:24:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 06:19:59 PM ---wait so doesnt that make russell not at 100% fault...? lol
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2010, 07:36:58 PM ---you guys could have Peyton Manning & you wouldn't win 8 games lol.
the Raiders are just fucked; if they make the Playoffs within the next 10 seasons (unless Al Davis dies in the next two), i'll be shocked.
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nobody ever claimed he was 100% at fault. But if youre educated on football then you understand how much of an effect a QB THAT bad as on an entire organization. We arent just talking about how much he hurts the team ON the field. But when you draft a QB #1....you spend the next 2/3 years building AROUND that guy. When he gives you absolutely nothing....you end up sucking, and you end up having to start over. Again, all of this is for an educated football fan. You gotta do some reading man...learn up on the game. There is a reason why he will more then likely be cut by the Raiders. lol CUT! Because they wouldnt be able to trade him for a Double Cheeseburger off the dollar menu right now. He has a VERY strong shot at going down as the biggest bust in NFL history. He will compete with Ryan Leaf. But I can honestly say I would take Leaf over JaMarcus...based on what we have seen from both. And Im sure Cham is knowledgeable enough about the game that he was making a joke...and knows better.
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of course he isnt 100% at fault. Im sayin....not 100% at fault for the teams struggles. He IS 100% at fault for himself becoming the biggest bust ever. At first I defended the guy SO much cus he was drafted by a team with a lot of turmoil at the time. But his lack of effort whatsoever...is all on him. And THAT is the reason he will go down as the biggest bust ever. The team was already struggling when they got him...and he actually made them worse. And when you draft a QB with the #1 overall pick...you would expect that your team would be better with that guy. He was worse than any QB theyve had....EVER really lol. If you can bring in a guy like Gradkowski last year...who wouldnt start on ONE team in the league....and they team place twice as good with him under center, there is clearly a problem with JaMarcus. No one can argue how much he hurt the team.
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I agree that Jamarcus is hurting the team, and I agree that he couldn't step up and be a leader and instead stepped down further than any of the greats would have stepped down. But I'm not saying he'd ever be good enough to be an all time great. I'm saying that on a real team like the Vikings, the Pats, or the Packers he'd be good enough to be a starter if raised properly in the system.
Would any of the hall of fame QBs have been as bad as Russel has been? Maybe not, but I never said he'd ever be good enough to get in the hall of fame. (that being said if he ended up on a great team and just played average and that team won 2 rings he would get in but that's only because he's a QB on a winning team).
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:51:57 PM ---aite cool at least you agree wit me there.....but way too many hated on the cable guy
and how did they draft someone that doesnt like to play what they drafted them for? lol
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:50:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:44:24 PM ---damn see finally others are statin what ive been sayin all this time and will always say unless russell tells me differently....lol
free the cable guy and russell...
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Cable hasnt been the problem
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Most Raider fans have no put much blame on Cable. The Raiders had the number 1 pick that year. They NEEDED a QB. Drafting any other position would have been looked at as a HUGE mistake. JaMarcus was the consensus #1 pick by virtually EVERY analyst...scout...etc out there. The Raiders made the same mistake in judging this guys talent as everyone else did. The problem is, those analysts, etc can back away and never mention how they misjudge his talent also.
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 26, 2010, 07:53:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:42:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:28:30 PM ---aite as long as others agree that he wasnt and isnt 100%at fault...cuz IMO he isnt and im not a raider fan...but the way everyone went in on him and still do is uncalled for......other qb's never caught the same heat as russell did...and please dont say it was cuz of the guranteed money..lol
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:24:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 06:19:59 PM ---wait so doesnt that make russell not at 100% fault...? lol
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2010, 07:36:58 PM ---you guys could have Peyton Manning & you wouldn't win 8 games lol.
the Raiders are just fucked; if they make the Playoffs within the next 10 seasons (unless Al Davis dies in the next two), i'll be shocked.
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nobody ever claimed he was 100% at fault. But if youre educated on football then you understand how much of an effect a QB THAT bad as on an entire organization. We arent just talking about how much he hurts the team ON the field. But when you draft a QB #1....you spend the next 2/3 years building AROUND that guy. When he gives you absolutely nothing....you end up sucking, and you end up having to start over. Again, all of this is for an educated football fan. You gotta do some reading man...learn up on the game. There is a reason why he will more then likely be cut by the Raiders. lol CUT! Because they wouldnt be able to trade him for a Double Cheeseburger off the dollar menu right now. He has a VERY strong shot at going down as the biggest bust in NFL history. He will compete with Ryan Leaf. But I can honestly say I would take Leaf over JaMarcus...based on what we have seen from both. And Im sure Cham is knowledgeable enough about the game that he was making a joke...and knows better.
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of course he isnt 100% at fault. Im sayin....not 100% at fault for the teams struggles. He IS 100% at fault for himself becoming the biggest bust ever. At first I defended the guy SO much cus he was drafted by a team with a lot of turmoil at the time. But his lack of effort whatsoever...is all on him. And THAT is the reason he will go down as the biggest bust ever. The team was already struggling when they got him...and he actually made them worse. And when you draft a QB with the #1 overall pick...you would expect that your team would be better with that guy. He was worse than any QB theyve had....EVER really lol. If you can bring in a guy like Gradkowski last year...who wouldnt start on ONE team in the league....and they team place twice as good with him under center, there is clearly a problem with JaMarcus. No one can argue how much he hurt the team.
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I agree that Jamarcus is hurting the team, and I agree that he couldn't step up and be a leader and instead stepped down further than any of the greats would have stepped down. But I'm not saying he'd ever be good enough to be an all time great. I'm saying that on a real team like the Vikings, the Pats, or the Packers he'd be good enough to be a starter if raised properly in the system.
Would any of the hall of fame QBs have been as bad as Russel has been? Maybe not, but I never said he'd ever be good enough to get in the hall of fame. (that being said if he ended up on a great team and just played average and that team won 2 rings he would get in but that's only because he's a QB on a winning team).
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you are taking this "the QB is only as good as the system" thing WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too far. Jamarcus would suck anywhere. Would he win more games playing for the Pats. Maybe so. Would they make the playoffs with him being the starter? LOL not a chance.
Lets look at the bottom half of the 1st round of the draft. Isnt it a bit of a coincidence that teams with the better records...also have the best QBs...
18 Steelers 9-7
19 Falcons 9-7
20 Texans 9-7
21 Bengals 10-6
22 Patriots 10-6
23 Packers 11-5
24 Eagles 11-5
25 Ravens 9-7
26 Cardinals 10-6
27 Cowboys 11-5
28 Chargers 13-3
29 Jets 9-7 .516
30 Vikings 12-4
31 Colts 14-2
32 Saints 13-3
Shallow:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:54:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:51:57 PM ---aite cool at least you agree wit me there.....but way too many hated on the cable guy
and how did they draft someone that doesnt like to play what they drafted them for? lol
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on April 26, 2010, 07:50:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ancient Chinese Secret on April 26, 2010, 07:44:24 PM ---damn see finally others are statin what ive been sayin all this time and will always say unless russell tells me differently....lol
free the cable guy and russell...
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Cable hasnt been the problem
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Most Raider fans have no put much blame on Cable. The Raiders had the number 1 pick that year. They NEEDED a QB. Drafting any other position would have been looked at as a HUGE mistake. JaMarcus was the consensus #1 pick by virtually EVERY analyst...scout...etc out there. The Raiders made the same mistake in judging this guys talent as everyone else did. The problem is, those analysts, etc can back away and never mention how they misjudge his talent also.
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Cable and Kiffin before him can only be as productive as Al Davis allows them to be. The organization is fault because it's not organized. Since the year before Russel got there to now the Oaklad Raiders have had 5 OCs. That's five offensive co-ordinators from 06 to 10. 5 guys in 4 years. How does any rookie QB get inspired when he doesn't know who the guy running the plays is gonna be?
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