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"Atheists have no morals, just look at Stalin & Hitler"
Shallow:
--- Quote from: ikke on April 28, 2010, 06:22:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 27, 2010, 05:48:15 PM ---
Wait a minute. I never read about any organized death camps during the crusades of innocent people being rounded up and killed for no reason. The crusades were a war between two religious factions, and the Muslims were killing Christians and taking over land just like the Christians were. Spain was taken over by Muslims. SPAIN! That'd be like people in concentration camps taking over Italy. It wasn't possible.
And what did the world do to oppose Hitler's evil idea of killing people? Nuke two Japanese islands and bomb the shit out of every country associated with Germany, then had over land to Stalin for helping them defeat Hitler. Give me a fucking break man.
You're just picking on religion because you don't like stuck up evangelicals with a superiority complex. That's how it comes across to me anyway.
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I recommend you to revisit the old testament.
Jews wiped out entire cultures.
There weren't any organized death camps because they just killed everybody right away.
Spain wasn't taken over by Muslims, just a small part in the south.
That's like saying Cubans took over america because they took over in miami
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You're using the Old Testament as an example? You're an atheist!!!!!! The Old Testament is a joke of a lie to you.
And as for the Crusades; I'm not saying that Europe wasn't the big dog in the fight, but Muslims were killing Christians right back. It was a war. The Nazis were performing a police action.
--- Quote from: ikke on April 28, 2010, 06:22:08 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 27, 2010, 09:14:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: ikke on April 26, 2010, 02:14:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 25, 2010, 05:17:31 PM ---
That makes no sense. You're comparing the number of people killed by anyone associating themselves as Christian or Muslim to that of two individual men. For arguments sake let's say that since Christ appeared and people started calling themselves Christian there have been 500 million killers in history who identified themselves as Christian. Throw in another 300 million killers who consider themselves Muslim and you have 800 million people who are killers. So I would think that 800 million killers would have killed more people than two killers; Hitler and Stalin.
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It does make sense.
Religious people say only atheists have no morals and therefore do things like Stalin & Hitler when the Truth is Religious people are just as guilty of these actions.
--- Quote from: Shallow on April 25, 2010, 05:17:31 PM ---
And to the OP; who cares what people say. If they think killing would be any less with more religion, than they're just as stupid as people that think killing would be any less with no religion. It all balances itself out. Even in ass backward parts of India where they have honor killings. More atheists die every year of high cholesterol related heart attacks than brothers killing their sisters for shaming the family in the eyes of Vishnu, and because they only eat organic food over there, none of them die of high cholesterol related heart attacks. I don't like Paul McCartney, but he was right about one thing; Live and let die.
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Did you just say all atheists are fat?
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Maybe if they believed in a God to help guide them they wouldn't be so fat.
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Are you serious?
America is a pretty much a christian nation and it's easily the fattest country in the world.
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You're very bright you know that, And incredibly good at picking up sarcasm. I commend you.
Michael:
--- Quote from: ikke on April 28, 2010, 06:22:08 AM ---Spain wasn't taken over by Muslims, just a small part in the south.
That's like saying Cubans took over america because they took over in miami
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it was held for a cupla hundred years, then gradually fell bit, by bit until Grenada was captured by the Spanish monarchs in 1492.
C-BLUE:
Theres many reasons why people kill. Yeah many kill in the name of religion, but most of them don‘t kill for that reason alone. There‘s almost always something else and most of the time it‘s something personal and something very simple. Like for instance, revenge! But the thing is these people love to justify murder by doing it in the name of god or allah or whatever the fucc they believe in. To them god is the most sacred thing. To me the word god has no meaning and it's like you could almost replace that word with the word "right" because to them god represents that word. They believe god can‘t be wrong and by associating that with the deed they feel much better about the whole thing. As a devout atheist I find that shit ridiculous. It‘s almost laughable, but let‘s get this shit straight...religion don‘t kill anybody, just like porn can‘t make anyone do porn! Religion is here because people are stupid and if you‘re gonna take someone‘s life in the name of Allah then you‘re not only just stupid for believing in Allah, you‘re also retarded..YOU‘RE LIGHTS!!!
But let me add..without religion the world would most certainly be a better place, but religion isn't going anywhere when you got people who are willing to believe in things they can't see, hear, smell or measure and feel they don't need evidence to believe in them. They call it faith, but to me it's really a mental disorder. If I could, I'd pray for these people.
ikke:
Small edit seeing how people thought I thought that only religious people did bad things.
And Bump for Streiht up menance
Raphael:
Fuck this pro capitalism bullshit about Hitler and Stalin being more evil than the US,France and Great Britain at that time. As a matter of fact i can't eat dinner without a picture of these war heroes hanging on my kitchen wall no homo.
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