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Why So Many Old People Are Stupid

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ikke:

--- Quote from: Infinite...  Be and It Is on April 28, 2010, 10:48:38 AM ---Matty, +1, EXCELLENT article.  

I've tried to live my life in a state of continuous growth, the path that the author has advocated for in this article.  I want to share my personal story as it relates to this article...

...In the article the author says growth and maturity stops at 30 for many people, but I would argue that I noticed a change much earlier, I noticed it right when I started high school.  

When I was in Jr. High life was always fresh, new, and exciting.  The kids a hung out with, kids in the neighborhood and at school, were always open and pushing for new ideas and creativity.  From our relationships with girls, friends, music we listened to, things we did, places we went.  Everybody was growing and maturing in exciting ways it seemed.  Whenever life got boring I could just look around and find something fresh and new out there.  It was still cool at that time to be unique.  

Then suddenly, when I reached high school and age 15 came, everything had turned on it's head, and immediately I felt uncomfortable and hated my new life.  Conformity and comfort suddenly became fashionable.  It became a huge negative in society to seek growth and maturity, or to push for new idea's and paths.  

This only got worse as I got older, as the article indicates.  My first time getting drunk was when I was 15.  I remember my friends and I would brag about drinking on the weekends, and things we did that went along with it; and it was a cool thing for a moment.  But then, I looked at guys in their 20's, and noticed they were bragging about the exact same thing, then I looked at people in their 30's and they were bragging about doing the exact same thing, and in their 40's people were into the exact same thing, and on and on.  Till I got out of highschool and the kids I grew up with were actually going to bars and hanging out with each others parents and coaches and there was really no difference in the growth, maturity, and intelligence of the 20 ye


ar old and the 30, 40, and 50 year old.

For me, I always saw life as a continuous growth process.  The things you are interested and excited about should always move forward in a continuous progression of your personal evolution.  You should always be smarter next year then the year before, you should always be wiser, finding new interests and pursuits, and so on.

I'm not saying that if you find something good you shouldn't stick with it.  You should always follow your passion.  But in following your passion there should be continuous growth in it.  

For example, you could take an artist like Eminem and I seriously loved seeing his growth from Infinite album, to SSLP, to MMLP, to Eminem Show and on into 8 Mile.  And then suddenly... it was like the dude stopped growing and on RELAPSE he became a child again.  It was very disappointing.  I just use that as an example so people can understand where I'm coming from.

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Can you teach me how to make those long ass posts saying something that could fit into 1 or 2 sentences?
No Offence.

On Topic:
You say it starts earlier because you see people from allot of age groups bragging about the same immature activities.
In your teens you develop your individuality, the difference between people becomes more obvious therefore you talk about subjects the others can relate to.

virtuoso:

In my opinion it's because as the writer states in the 20's people are brimming with enthusiasm and idealism. When someone hits their 30's though, that idealistic energy which has driven their beliefs, their outlook, their person, has waned as they become increasingly cynical about the world around them and fall victim to a state of apathy. The apathy sees them lose the will to strive for more, whether in life, or in knowledge and instead become somewhat immersed and malaised with base level things which although have no real consequence to them, it's an outlet of sorts for their mind. Unfortunately though when forego this learning, their senses, critical thinking and just general mindstate becomes very rigid and their mind becomes much more vegetative, because if you don't use it, you lose it. I guess the big challenge is to battle against this social trapping but of course as far as marriage is concerned, it becomes a social norm, having kids, is a social norm and with that comes responsibilities and to an extent these will alter someones outlook on life.

Triple OG Rapsodie:
Really? This doesn't make sense at all because kids are way more ignorant than adults

Fraxxx:
My overall impression is that most people are stupid or ignorant in many ways and can be lovable and understanding in many others. But regarding the stupidity, I see it with young and old in equal proportions.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: ikke on April 28, 2010, 11:40:24 AM ---Can you teach me how to make those long ass posts saying something that could fit into 1 or 2 sentences?
No Offence.


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I was explaining the process of how I had came to the same conclusion as the author of the article.  I don't think my explanation was too long.


--- Quote from: ikke on April 28, 2010, 11:40:24 AM ---
On Topic:
You say it starts earlier because you see people from allot of age groups bragging about the same immature activities.
In your teens you develop your individuality, the difference between people becomes more obvious therefore you talk about subjects the others can relate to.


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I don't think that it is a matter of just talking about common activities to relate to one another.  I understand the use of that.  There's a lot of people I talk with about sports because it's hard to relate to them on any other subjects.  So I know drinking alcohol, for example, is a common past time a lot of people can relate to at different ages.

But it's more than that.  You can see the expression on a person's face change as they get older.  They slowly become less open, set in their ways, and it is very difficult for them to continue to receive new idea's without becoming anxious.  They do become less intelligent, and often more immature.  I mean, look at the phenomenon of television shows with the father or adult male figure acting like a child all the time.  That show "Jim", "Kings of Queens", "Simpsons", "Family Guy", Tim Allen's characters, Adam Sandlers characters, I could go on and on... it's became a cultural phenomenon in America especially. 

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