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Why LeBron Will NEVER Be Kobe...Cleveland is FINISHED.
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Don Blunt Tyme on May 20, 2010, 04:43:31 PM ---lebron needs the right coach like kobe has phil michael had phil lebron has fuckin mike brown he aint winnin shit i dont think he can really motivate the team to win i wanna know what the fuck he did or said to the team those last two games he shouldve challenged lebron
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But I can't think of a team that has that for him outside of the teams that already have teams together. Maybe Miami with Riley, but Riley needs to just hang it up. The more that is expose, the more I'm betting Chicago for his future home.
Sccit:
To me, it seems quite obvious that the Laker fans in this thread are being much more realistic about our team than the anti-Laker LeBron apologists...Does Kobe have a garbage supporting cast? Hell no...But is it a hall-of-fame supporting cast that has breezed through the season like some of ya'll are acting? No way. We're in between. We've got a good cast, built to win the title, because Kobe knows how to bring the best out of his supporting players, and through leadership, the cast has learned their individual roles and have played their role way better than LeBron's cast did. Our cast wouldn't look nearly as good without Kobe bringing the winning mentality, because looking good comes with winning. That is where leadership comes into play. The leadership of Phil and the leadership of Kobe. Kobe is like an extension of Phil on the court. if it wasn't for Phil, Kobe would never have his current winning mentality, just like if it weren't for Kobe, the Laker supporting cast wouldn't have that winning mentality. So maybe LeBron too wont reach that level until he gets a real coach. You guys bring up Mike Brown as an argument for why the Cavs didn't win, but Mike Brown may very well be the reason LeBron, as an individual, is incapable of grasping what it takes to be a winner. Kobe has said he would never be the player he is today if it weren' for Phil. So maybe LeBron wont reach that next level until he gets a coach who is capable of lifting him there...If LeBron had Kobe's ability of bringing the best out of his cast and willing his way to victories, people would be talking about how amazing and deep the Cleveland cast is, just like they were before they lost. When Lakers were losing, everyone said we didn't have the bench to repeat as champions. Being great comes with winning, and winning comes from will, just as much as it comes from ability...PeACe
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 20, 2010, 04:36:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 20, 2010, 04:30:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 20, 2010, 04:13:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Meho on May 20, 2010, 01:09:00 PM ---@Cham; I've said this to you a couple of times but you see things so black and white. Worst cast of support ? Lol come one man, nobody was saying that shit when Cavs were killing it in the regular season. But now it has happened like three times in a row that they chocked in the play offs. Coincidence ? I think not. Do Lakers have a better team ? Yeah. But it's not that big of a difference. It's definitely not.
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if the Cavs played the Lakers & Kobe & LeBron weren't playing, the Lakers would win every single game by double digits lol.
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lol Laker fans are so torn with arguments like this. On one hand...they do like the idea that their team as a whole is better then the Cavs. On the other hand...they dont want to admit that Kobe has more help than LeBron. What to do? If only there was a way to make it seem as if the Lakers supporting cast and coach were better then LeBrons....but still be able to say LeBron has more help. lol
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LOL, exactly.
i think there is a 10 page thread somewhere in the sports section about how Phil Jackson is the greatest coach in history of coaching, but he's a "non-factor" when it's a Kobe/LeBron debate lol.
come to think of it, he wasn't the coach of the Lakers when Kobe was alone & finished .500 either, right? :laugh:
he needs the cast.
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A lot of Kobe's greatness comes from being coached by Phil, just like a lot of the Lakers' supporting cast greatness comes from being led by Kobe. You keep digging yourself holes with your lame arguments. Perhaps, if LeBron didn't have a coach as whack as Mike Brown, having a good coach would mean having mentor who would push him, question his spoiled ways and challenge his mentality when he sees that LeBron's heart isn't in it, which in turn could propel LeBron into a category with the GOATs...maybe a good coach is just what he's missing. But that doesn't strengthen your argument, it weakens it...PeACe
Sccit:
Some classic quotes from a big LeBron fan earlier in the season...
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on February 20, 2010, 05:49:03 PM ---Jamison is more than enough for Cleveland to make the Finals;
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--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on February 20, 2010, 05:50:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mo Z. Dizzle on February 20, 2010, 03:31:16 PM ---there's rumour that the Wiz will buy out Ilgauskas, and he'll eventually return to the Cavs.
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i heard this too; that wouldn't even be fair lol.
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westsiderider323:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on May 20, 2010, 09:32:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Blunt Tyme on May 20, 2010, 04:43:31 PM ---lebron needs the right coach like kobe has phil michael had phil lebron has fuckin mike brown he aint winnin shit i dont think he can really motivate the team to win i wanna know what the fuck he did or said to the team those last two games he shouldve challenged lebron
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But I can't think of a team that has that for him outside of the teams that already have teams together. Maybe Miami with Riley, but Riley needs to just hang it up. The more that is expose, the more I'm betting Chicago for his future home.
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i dont get why people sayin chicago chicago blah blah when they havnt even figured out who the fuck their coach is gon be but thats the media creating this hype bout lebron/chicago they should focus more on who the next head coach is gon be and if thats gon be a major factor if lebron is gon be a bull or not next season
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