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Quote from: rapsodie sees the bitch in you on May 09, 2010, 04:58:01 PMEven a cosign won't do it for you if you are a west coast artist. Look at Bishop with Dre, Glasses with Wayne, Damani with Snoop.Yeah that is true. I was just about to post something similar to this. If Snoop is struggling to go gold and Cube as well even though he is indie, what real push will a co sign give some of these other artists? But at the same time it does show unity and support as a whole which is needed IMO. Double edged sword either way.
Even a cosign won't do it for you if you are a west coast artist. Look at Bishop with Dre, Glasses with Wayne, Damani with Snoop.
Quote from: Jaydc thinks Jesus is an Uncle Tom on May 09, 2010, 03:48:13 PMI already said he didnt want kanye to rap at first idiot.so why bring up that example when it only proves rapsodies point? kanye had to make a buzz for himself big enough for jayz to believe in him and then he gave him a cosign. game and snoop has given nipsey cosigns on the radio and had him on tour. dre gave bishop a cosign by signing him. problem got alot of attention and shoutoutsby game and is signed to snoop. game gave jay rock the biggest support ever. snoop has given a cosign to damani bad lucc and all da otha artist on his label while glasses was down with bws and now cash money and still cant make enough noise? so whos fault is that? shouldnt glasses be upset at cash money for not dropping their albums?
I already said he didnt want kanye to rap at first idiot.
he was signed to jay zs label and jay featured on his album and made appearances with him.Thats more then a cosign.
Quote from: cowboy1 on May 09, 2010, 10:31:59 PMQuote from: Jaydc thinks Jesus is an Uncle Tom on May 09, 2010, 03:48:13 PMI already said he didnt want kanye to rap at first idiot.so why bring up that example when it only proves rapsodies point? kanye had to make a buzz for himself big enough for jayz to believe in him and then he gave him a cosign. game and snoop has given nipsey cosigns on the radio and had him on tour. dre gave bishop a cosign by signing him. problem got alot of attention and shoutoutsby game and is signed to snoop. game gave jay rock the biggest support ever. snoop has given a cosign to damani bad lucc and all da otha artist on his label while glasses was down with bws and now cash money and still cant make enough noise? so whos fault is that? shouldnt glasses be upset at cash money for not dropping their albums?just signing one to your label is not a co-sign,bringing them along and doing features at big events help more,we live in a time where people really want to say who is that" and oh he really kicc it with such and such i got to checc em out" i mean when dre did that thing with bishop it made people want to get on bishops side even more,but he didn't drop no real product and wasn't seen at no big event and touting as the next great thing, yeah dre spoke on a interview or two but nothing major with the music,plus people still was more interested and hearing dre's beats more so then bishop's rap'n and i'm talking about muthafuccas who go out and buy the records, plus artist got to have that it factor to make all or most attention shift on them,i mean if you do a song with wayne you got to make wayne fans and people who heard the song say "yeah wayne did his thang,but ol boy/girl killed that shit,wayne better sign them cause they gonna be a beast" yell
While I can agree that certain artists have had oppurtunities,the industry isnt like it was when the west was on top and unity is the key for any success in the future.I want to everyone work with everyone and stop all the bullshit bickering.Wether you like it or not the south is on top because of unity.Dissing and negativity get you an initial jump but in the end people just want to hear dope music.In the end thats what its all about.And the music that old west and new west would make together as one coast would trump any music either side is making now.
There's also the possibility that maybe the Old West just doesn't think the New West are talented enought to merit working with. Think about it: in school, would you want to collaborate with someone on a project who you felt wasn't as smart as you? To the point where you had to carry the group. No. You want to be in a group of people who you think are on your level.Let me ask you -- which members of the New West do you think are at the same level of the Old West in terms of ability to make good music? The Old West can't be haters if they estimate that the new rappers just aren't talented enough to work with....Just a thought...
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
Wow this thread is turned up.... The older artist should extend hands to the younger generation to show appreciation and admiration of the youth for keeping what they started alive..point blank...This shit is jus like gangs..If you dont hand down the jewels to the younger homies.. whos gonna keep the hood alive when the OG's are too old....Now @ SHAKA ZULU BIG MAN...Real gangsters are suppose to rap if they have the skill and the drive to do it.. Getting the information first hand from a real gangster is better than the opinion of a ghetto reporter.. Most of you will never understand cuz yall aint living thru this struggle that we living....
alot of what you say rapsodie is true,but come on my equal it's a new time, plus people got to start from somewhere,us as fans got to stop acting stucc up,as well as label heads and established rappers,cube ain't trying to put nobody on his label so it's cool,but just minimizing every artist cause they aren't nationally known is stupid and that's what this coast does a lil too much, i mean it's alot of south rappers we ain't know of yet they get put on and have at least one hit and alot started out on the net or lil talent shows,so fucc that mentality, if shit is dope it's dope, i think alot of fans out here and rappers who've had modest success swear they are fucc'n dr dre with the "it got to sound like this,cd quality,did he do a song with snoop etc" that's bullshit,and who cares where you know these people from,hell j.cole came off myspace as well as b.o.b. who has the number 1 record in the country, shit is funny that mainly only the west seems to think shit is a bad thing, equals need to get off they high muthafucc'n horses and checc out shit from here yell
Quote from: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 11, 2010, 08:46:30 AMThere's also the possibility that maybe the Old West just doesn't think the New West are talented enought to merit working with. Think about it: in school, would you want to collaborate with someone on a project who you felt wasn't as smart as you? To the point where you had to carry the group. No. You want to be in a group of people who you think are on your level.Let me ask you -- which members of the New West do you think are at the same level of the Old West in terms of ability to make good music? The Old West can't be haters if they estimate that the new rappers just aren't talented enough to work with....Just a thought...A big part in this phenomenon is musicianship in all forms of the art. When you talk about the old west you have to take into consideration that many of the OGs are real musicians who play live intsruments and not just computer software experts. Then you look at the gangsta phenomenon all this gangsta street credibility stuff has gave the art a mis-reprensentation of the form. N.W.A were street reporters they took the B-boy conscious rap formula from the east coast and morphed it into the scenary of what the west coast was all about it wasn't until snoop came into the picture that the gang bang stuff came into the art and changed it's expression from musicianship into street credibility and blah blah blah. But even snoop has musicianship in his background. The whole thing now is we need to get back to the art which is about music. We turned musicianship into gangsterism which wasn't what was done in the beginning. Gangstas don't have no business trying to be musicians and musicians don't have no business trying to be gangsters. N.W.A, above the law,CMW,DJ quik were musicians who were street reporters not gangs bangers. We need to get back to being musicians and this way we will get better music and more artful expressions.