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Dre wasnt invovled. DJ Head, Eminem's old DJ was involved in the production but didnt recieve any credit
does sound a lot better than your average eminem beat....the instrumentation actually seems to connect and make sense, whereas most eminem beats things sound out of place and uncomfortable, call it his style or whatever.
I always tell myself I'm going to stay out of these stupid threads and I always get sucked in them because no one ever seems to listen.DRE DRE DOES NOT COMPOSE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and neither does Eminem. Every one of their bass lines that you guys love or hate so much are either samples or created by, get this, a bass player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!For Chronic, Dre either took straight from P Funk songs or later told his musicians to play songs that sound like them and I'll pick the best ones. For 2001 he stole 2 songs with the same style and told his musicians to make up shit that sounds like them.The actual production of Eminem and Dr Dre is almost identical. Eminem once he started producing alone was only mimicking Dre's mixing style and approach. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE NOTES PLAYED OR THE MELODY! It means the texture of the sound. The same way two films can look the same picture wise but be completely different in content and in shots. Listen to the production of the SSLP by Em and the Bass Brothers and then listen to Em's production after wards. I'm not talking about the melodies. I'm talking about the actual production. The texture of the sound. It's completely different. For example I Just Don't Give a Fuck and My Name Is have different production. I Just Don't Give a Fuck and If I Had have the same style of production, despite having completely different musical styles. While on Em Show Business and With Out Me have the exact same production style despite one being Dre and one being Em and Bass.Oh fuck it. I'll never get through to some people. Dr Dre is a musical genius who sits at home and writes symphonies on pen and paper with music notation and then conducts his musicians on how to play it and Eminem couldn't ever dream of doing so.The Bass line of Renegade sounds different than most bass lines by Em because it is either taken from another song and replayed and it was so good Em wanted it, or Em's bass player played it and Em heard it and said we have to use that. It has nothing to do with Eminem or Dr Dre creating a bass line, or DJ fucking HEAD!
Quote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 09:30:54 AMI always tell myself I'm going to stay out of these stupid threads and I always get sucked in them because no one ever seems to listen.DRE DRE DOES NOT COMPOSE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and neither does Eminem. Every one of their bass lines that you guys love or hate so much are either samples or created by, get this, a bass player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!For Chronic, Dre either took straight from P Funk songs or later told his musicians to play songs that sound like them and I'll pick the best ones. For 2001 he stole 2 songs with the same style and told his musicians to make up shit that sounds like them.The actual production of Eminem and Dr Dre is almost identical. Eminem once he started producing alone was only mimicking Dre's mixing style and approach. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE NOTES PLAYED OR THE MELODY! It means the texture of the sound. The same way two films can look the same picture wise but be completely different in content and in shots. Listen to the production of the SSLP by Em and the Bass Brothers and then listen to Em's production after wards. I'm not talking about the melodies. I'm talking about the actual production. The texture of the sound. It's completely different. For example I Just Don't Give a Fuck and My Name Is have different production. I Just Don't Give a Fuck and If I Had have the same style of production, despite having completely different musical styles. While on Em Show Business and With Out Me have the exact same production style despite one being Dre and one being Em and Bass.Oh fuck it. I'll never get through to some people. Dr Dre is a musical genius who sits at home and writes symphonies on pen and paper with music notation and then conducts his musicians on how to play it and Eminem couldn't ever dream of doing so.The Bass line of Renegade sounds different than most bass lines by Em because it is either taken from another song and replayed and it was so good Em wanted it, or Em's bass player played it and Em heard it and said we have to use that. It has nothing to do with Eminem or Dr Dre creating a bass line, or DJ fucking HEAD!Nobody in this thread implied that Dre or Eminem composed thier own music so I dont understand why you felt the need to rant. DJ Head was involved on the production. Eminem himself said that DJ head used to program the drums becuase Eminem didnt know how to use the MPC when he first started producing
Quote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 09:30:54 AMI always tell myself I'm going to stay out of these stupid threads and I always get sucked in them because no one ever seems to listen.DRE DRE DOES NOT COMPOSE MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!and neither does Eminem. Every one of their bass lines that you guys love or hate so much are either samples or created by, get this, a bass player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!For Chronic, Dre either took straight from P Funk songs or later told his musicians to play songs that sound like them and I'll pick the best ones. For 2001 he stole 2 songs with the same style and told his musicians to make up shit that sounds like them.The actual production of Eminem and Dr Dre is almost identical. Eminem once he started producing alone was only mimicking Dre's mixing style and approach. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE NOTES PLAYED OR THE MELODY! It means the texture of the sound. The same way two films can look the same picture wise but be completely different in content and in shots. Listen to the production of the SSLP by Em and the Bass Brothers and then listen to Em's production after wards. I'm not talking about the melodies. I'm talking about the actual production. The texture of the sound. It's completely different. For example I Just Don't Give a Fuck and My Name Is have different production. I Just Don't Give a Fuck and If I Had have the same style of production, despite having completely different musical styles. While on Em Show Business and With Out Me have the exact same production style despite one being Dre and one being Em and Bass.Oh fuck it. I'll never get through to some people. Dr Dre is a musical genius who sits at home and writes symphonies on pen and paper with music notation and then conducts his musicians on how to play it and Eminem couldn't ever dream of doing so.The Bass line of Renegade sounds different than most bass lines by Em because it is either taken from another song and replayed and it was so good Em wanted it, or Em's bass player played it and Em heard it and said we have to use that. It has nothing to do with Eminem or Dr Dre creating a bass line, or DJ fucking HEAD!I think to anyone who knows about dre production and his career aswell as eminem should know that they dont compose the music on paper. But while the style of production eminem and dre use are similar, it doesnt mean they are of the same class. I dont know if you know shit about soccer/football but if you compare ricardo quaresma and cristiano ronaldo, they're both very skillfull players with similar backgrounds who do alot of the shit the same way. They both like to dribble, do step overs etc, but one player is amazing and the other is pretty shitty.Thats the story with dre and eminem. Eminem being the shitty producer and dre being the amazing one. I dont see anyone calling dre a composer or a genius of composing music, but as a music producer he is a genius and his track record proves it. I think most of the music industry would agree about that too. Whether someone likes him or not, thats kinda subjective but speaking objectively, anyone trying to tell me dre aint a genius music producer i aint listening too because he has done MORE than enough to prove that. Eminem on the other hand, is just another shitty producer and i wouldnt argue with that with anyone.I dont think i heard anyone speak of dre composing music in here. Also on a side note, there are producers out there who compose there own music too, whether shitty or not but they do. Dre however being the producer of his shit, does lead the sound in which the music is going. He will tell them of the sound etc he wants from his musicians, and then put it together sort of thing. I dont think i really need to be telling you this. But yeh, dre aint a composer and is not amazing on any musical instruments i dont think! But as a producer, he is fuckin good lol