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Almost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here..
Quote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2010, 08:35:39 PMAlmost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here.. My beef? What makes the "production" Renegade any better than Em's beats on the first d12 album, or Em Show? People can't answer that because there is no difference in the production. It's the exact same style as Soldier, or Devils Night or Square Dance. The musical style might be different, but the production is the same. And people are on here thinking it was so much better Dre had to have had a part in it?
Quote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 10:51:00 PMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2010, 08:35:39 PMAlmost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here.. My beef? What makes the "production" Renegade any better than Em's beats on the first d12 album, or Em Show? People can't answer that because there is no difference in the production. It's the exact same style as Soldier, or Devils Night or Square Dance. The musical style might be different, but the production is the same. And people are on here thinking it was so much better Dre had to have had a part in it?What makes the production stand-out over most Em beats on Renegade? For me, it's the bassline. I bet if you went and listened to all of the Em beats Jeff Bass was involved in, the basslines are gonna be the better ones you've heard on an Em production...Even now, Eminem has Resto by his side on almost every track, working with another musician is gonna make your song better, almost all of the time. Two minds are greater than one...In Soldier, it's obvious the main rhythm and drums are Em, and the little elements (foot stomps, strings on the chorus) and probably the mixing are Resto..We all know Dre and Eminem work with other people when creating and mixing beats, it's not secret.. And nothing to be ashamed of.. And yes you're right, more people should be aware there are other people in the studio that are taking Em's beat to the next level, it's not always Dr. Dre..
Quote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 17, 2010, 06:30:15 AMQuote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 10:51:00 PMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2010, 08:35:39 PMAlmost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here.. My beef? What makes the "production" Renegade any better than Em's beats on the first d12 album, or Em Show? People can't answer that because there is no difference in the production. It's the exact same style as Soldier, or Devils Night or Square Dance. The musical style might be different, but the production is the same. And people are on here thinking it was so much better Dre had to have had a part in it?What makes the production stand-out over most Em beats on Renegade? For me, it's the bassline. I bet if you went and listened to all of the Em beats Jeff Bass was involved in, the basslines are gonna be the better ones you've heard on an Em production...Even now, Eminem has Resto by his side on almost every track, working with another musician is gonna make your song better, almost all of the time. Two minds are greater than one...In Soldier, it's obvious the main rhythm and drums are Em, and the little elements (foot stomps, strings on the chorus) and probably the mixing are Resto..We all know Dre and Eminem work with other people when creating and mixing beats, it's not secret.. And nothing to be ashamed of.. And yes you're right, more people should be aware there are other people in the studio that are taking Em's beat to the next level, it's not always Dr. Dre..So how is this bass line produced better? rather than simply composed better?
Quote from: Shallow on May 17, 2010, 08:44:08 AMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 17, 2010, 06:30:15 AMQuote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 10:51:00 PMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2010, 08:35:39 PMAlmost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here.. My beef? What makes the "production" Renegade any better than Em's beats on the first d12 album, or Em Show? People can't answer that because there is no difference in the production. It's the exact same style as Soldier, or Devils Night or Square Dance. The musical style might be different, but the production is the same. And people are on here thinking it was so much better Dre had to have had a part in it?What makes the production stand-out over most Em beats on Renegade? For me, it's the bassline. I bet if you went and listened to all of the Em beats Jeff Bass was involved in, the basslines are gonna be the better ones you've heard on an Em production...Even now, Eminem has Resto by his side on almost every track, working with another musician is gonna make your song better, almost all of the time. Two minds are greater than one...In Soldier, it's obvious the main rhythm and drums are Em, and the little elements (foot stomps, strings on the chorus) and probably the mixing are Resto..We all know Dre and Eminem work with other people when creating and mixing beats, it's not secret.. And nothing to be ashamed of.. And yes you're right, more people should be aware there are other people in the studio that are taking Em's beat to the next level, it's not always Dr. Dre..So how is this bass line produced better? rather than simply composed better?It's not, it's produced like every other Em song... I meant the composing of it is badass.
Quote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 17, 2010, 09:04:47 AMQuote from: Shallow on May 17, 2010, 08:44:08 AMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 17, 2010, 06:30:15 AMQuote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 10:51:00 PMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2010, 08:35:39 PMAlmost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here.. My beef? What makes the "production" Renegade any better than Em's beats on the first d12 album, or Em Show? People can't answer that because there is no difference in the production. It's the exact same style as Soldier, or Devils Night or Square Dance. The musical style might be different, but the production is the same. And people are on here thinking it was so much better Dre had to have had a part in it?What makes the production stand-out over most Em beats on Renegade? For me, it's the bassline. I bet if you went and listened to all of the Em beats Jeff Bass was involved in, the basslines are gonna be the better ones you've heard on an Em production...Even now, Eminem has Resto by his side on almost every track, working with another musician is gonna make your song better, almost all of the time. Two minds are greater than one...In Soldier, it's obvious the main rhythm and drums are Em, and the little elements (foot stomps, strings on the chorus) and probably the mixing are Resto..We all know Dre and Eminem work with other people when creating and mixing beats, it's not secret.. And nothing to be ashamed of.. And yes you're right, more people should be aware there are other people in the studio that are taking Em's beat to the next level, it's not always Dr. Dre..So how is this bass line produced better? rather than simply composed better?It's not, it's produced like every other Em song... I meant the composing of it is badass. And that my friend is the whole point of my argument.
Quote from: Shallow on May 17, 2010, 11:04:04 AMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 17, 2010, 09:04:47 AMQuote from: Shallow on May 17, 2010, 08:44:08 AMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 17, 2010, 06:30:15 AMQuote from: Shallow on May 15, 2010, 10:51:00 PMQuote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2010, 08:35:39 PMAlmost every typical Hip-Hop song's bass is a sample of another song that has been low-passed.. Of course Em's style sounds like Dre's.. They worked closely together for years and no doubt Dre taught him alot and had alot of influence on his style.. Certain elements of "Eminem productions" are thanks to DJ Head, Bass Bros, and Dr. Dre. Especially the mixing... It's the same as when you start rapping and your style is very similar to lots of the rappers you actually listen to... I don't see your beef here.. My beef? What makes the "production" Renegade any better than Em's beats on the first d12 album, or Em Show? People can't answer that because there is no difference in the production. It's the exact same style as Soldier, or Devils Night or Square Dance. The musical style might be different, but the production is the same. And people are on here thinking it was so much better Dre had to have had a part in it?What makes the production stand-out over most Em beats on Renegade? For me, it's the bassline. I bet if you went and listened to all of the Em beats Jeff Bass was involved in, the basslines are gonna be the better ones you've heard on an Em production...Even now, Eminem has Resto by his side on almost every track, working with another musician is gonna make your song better, almost all of the time. Two minds are greater than one...In Soldier, it's obvious the main rhythm and drums are Em, and the little elements (foot stomps, strings on the chorus) and probably the mixing are Resto..We all know Dre and Eminem work with other people when creating and mixing beats, it's not secret.. And nothing to be ashamed of.. And yes you're right, more people should be aware there are other people in the studio that are taking Em's beat to the next level, it's not always Dr. Dre..So how is this bass line produced better? rather than simply composed better?It's not, it's produced like every other Em song... I meant the composing of it is badass. And that my friend is the whole point of my argument.Well I initially made the comment about the bassline making the song, so I assume your "argument" is aimed at me.. I still don't get the point you're trying to get across to me though....