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Kobe...
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: wcsoldier on June 06, 2010, 12:28:54 PM ---I don't try to argue otherwise , Shaq was the focal point ... I'm just saying that Kobe was not your regular second option ... you won't find many 2nd options who averaged 27 , 5 and 5 on a championship team ... so he deserved more credit for those titles than some of you give him ..
I don't think that we would have made it to the Finals these years and if you replace Kobe by let's say Ginobili in his prime .... do you think so ?
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Maybe not, but with Lebron in his prime and Shaq in his prime I'd guess about 4 straight titles.
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LMAO...LeBron doesn't have the outide game nor the clutch play to make a LeBron-Shaq duo even HALF as successful as the Kobe-Shaq 1-2 punch of the threepeat era. The inside-outside game was vital. Shaq clogged up the lane, where LeBron scores most his point...do you watch basketball, Shallow? Because you do seem like a knowledgeable person...just that you sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about in this instance, and a lot of the time when you argue against Kobe.
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I'm not arguing against Kobe here. Kobe is in his prime now and the last few years. Kobe in his prime with Shaq in his prime would be a at least 4 straight as well. I don't think Kobe was at his absolute best in those three years and I don't think he was as good as Lebron is now in those three years. What I saw was an unstoppable Shaq and with the Bulls dismantled he could have won 2 titles with me, fuck Lebron. So I feel that Lebron as is playing with Shaq in the late 90s early 2000s would have either beaten one of those Jazz or Spurs teams and also won the three the Lakers won.
And based on what I've seen with the modern Cavs I don't see Kobe doing any better with that team than Lebron did.
I never said Lebron was better than Kobe. You've won the Kobe debate with me. He's the best player right now. Just not by a landslide, and still not as valuable to me as a '99 Shaq.
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--- Quote from: wcsoldier on June 06, 2010, 12:28:54 PM ---I don't try to argue otherwise , Shaq was the focal point ... I'm just saying that Kobe was not your regular second option ... you won't find many 2nd options who averaged 27 , 5 and 5 on a championship team ... so he deserved more credit for those titles than some of you give him ..
I don't think that we would have made it to the Finals these years and if you replace Kobe by let's say Ginobili in his prime .... do you think so ?
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I agree. I wouldnt say he was your average #2 option. Not at all. And Ive never argued that Ginobli was as good as Kobe lol. All Im saying is, he WAS the #2 guy on that team. That is clear, and very obvious. EVERYone knows it. That doesnt mean he wasnt a HUGE part of those championships. Without Kobe, they would not have three-peated. That has never been my argument. My point is, when you look at those titles...you DO have to take into account the fact that he was the #2. Especially when Kobe fans try to argue Kobe>Jordan. There IS a big difference between being THE man on a championship team, and being the #2 man on a championship team as far as legacy is concerned.
wcsoldier:
No guards is seeing Jordan in terms of accomplishment and efficiency ... this debate should be put to rest ...
I have always said that Kobe offensive arsenal is better and a Kobe on fire is more impressive than a MJ in the zone but Kobe cannot fuck with MJ numbers and efficiency in the playoffs and in the Finals and thats a fact....
OG Hack Wilson:
the only players who can compare to MJ in terms of career stats are Wilt and Lebron. and even Lebron is about 4 PPG away from Jordan in his prime (who was about a 32 PPG guy)
the only players who can compare in the terms of winning are Bill Russell and Robert Horry lol.
polepositon:
KOBE!!!!!!!!! ;D
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