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EMINEM - RECOVERY (Official Discussion)
Chamillitary Click:
tell me not, he's got some sick wordplay/metaphors thoughout this.
LyRiCaL_G:
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--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 08, 2010, 08:52:11 AM ---On a side note, dres production on eminems first two albums was brilliant, agree though ever since eminem show, dres work with eminem has not been great at all.
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Really? You didn't like Relapse's production? That had to have been one of the best produced rap albums of the decade! Just the way it was so theatrically/dark sounding, all flowing together and just plain sounded miles ahead of everything else to me. And THAT is Dre's new sound by the way, for anyone thinking he's still on all that piano/strings shit.
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No sir relapse is not even one of the better produced cds to come out of aftermath and its affiliates camp. I really never understood how some hardcore eminem fans come to that conclusion. I never EVER hear anyone praise the production of relapse past a few people who aint heard nothing past an aftermath shady cd and really, its not even close to the best shit produced in the last decade. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Thats almost an insult to some of the greater shit produced this decade.
The production on relapse is solid, pretty much all the way through and its clean, noone doubts dre as a mixer but the beats on relapse, is just dre remaking beats his done before just either not as good because its been done before. Some of the better production on there like stay wide awake sounds like something that would come out of the obie trice debut/gunit era and before anyone says im hating on it, i loved the beat to stay wide awake. But its not some of the better shit of the decade when dre done did better himself many times over the decade. even other beats like insane, the final joint etc...thats shit he done tried with stat quo already. The production is decent on relapse but the album is garbage and if it was so strong it'd hold the album up still to look pretty decent but it cant even do that. That how i see it anyway. :) Ima huge dre fan by the way but im critical without bias when it comes to any cat.
Action!:
Here's some more commentary from someone who does not really enjoy this album.
My issue isn't that he's trying to prove that he is the best in the game. I think he did it perfectly on Forever and Drop The World. My issue is the execution and how it works in the album. It all feels forced. The perfect get up to show how talented he is. It doesn't feel natural.
There's too many moments where it feels like he's making announcements of "Hey, I'm back and I'm really good. Pay attention here" and not enough moments of "Damn, did he just do that!?!!" Too much telling (Hey, guys, I just want to thank my fans...I was high on drugs for Encore, and recovering on Relapse....blah blah blah... i'm back", not enough showing (he showed up on Forever and murdered it.)
The album is such a mix bag of tricks. I'm not disputing his flow or vocal talent. I just don't like the approach he chose. Too many whiny vocal choruses, too many aggressive approach to tracks that should've been toned down. There's just too much, "I don't care what you think but guess what I really do."
What I gathered from this album is that he misses being number 1 because he was high off drugs when he was. Hell, his Proof commentary isn't even memorable. It's more fitting that he admits he can't create a track about Proof then attempting to do so and releasing a half-assed one for the public to jerk off to.
Not Afraid is not dope music like Lose Yourself. Hell, it's not even dope music like Beautiful.
Note: I thought Relapse was a dope concept album until Eminem admitted it wasn't one. So, from that perspective it's a complete failure. It wasn't funny, it was disturbing and sick (which would have made a great metaphor on how serious drug issues are but since it isn't one, it's a complete failure.)
I'm a known defender of Encore because I find it to be genuinely raw and emotional about his life and his career (past, present, and future).
If I were to summarize this album, I'd say it's got the perfect get up to show why Eminem is supposed to be one of the greats but it's soulless. I can't feel it which is oddly disappointing because I thought he was going to swing it out the park based on his recent guest features of Forever & Drop the World. Both of those tracks did everything right that this album didn't.
Reventón Bogotá Rolla:
Tracks I think are :o :
Talking To Myself
Cindarella Man
Tracks I think are 8) :
Seduction
No Love
woof:
1. "Cold Wind Blows" [Prod. By Just Blaze]
2. "Talkin' 2 Myself" (featuring Kobe) [Prod. By DJ Khalil]
3. "On Fire" [Prod. By Mr. Porter]
4. "Won't Back Down" (featuring Pink) [Prod. By DJ Khalil]
5. "W.T.P." [Prod. By DJ Khalil]
6. "Going Through Changes" [Prod. By Emile]
7. "Not Afraid" [Prod. By Boi-1da]
8. "Seduction" [Prod. By Boi-1da]
9. "No Love" (featuring Lil Wayne) [Prod. By Just Blaze]
10. "Space Bound" [Prod. By Jim Jonsin]
11. "Cinderella Man" [Prod. By Just Blaze]
12. "25 to Life" [Prod. By DJ Khalil]
13. "So Bad" [Prod. By Dr. Dre]
14. "Almost Famous" [Prod. By Just Blaze]
15. "Love the Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna) [Prod. By Alex Da Kid]
16. "You're Never Over" [Prod. By Just Blaze]
17. "Here We Go"(Untitled) [Prod. By Havoc]
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