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EMINEM - RECOVERY (Official Discussion)
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Sccit on May 23, 2025, 03:37:43 PM ---i was going to go down the thread and tally up all the positive reviews for relapse vs positive reviews for recovery
which show roughly about 70% positive for relapse and 30% positive for recovery
but you're right.. i have a family and classic music of my own to work on .... so i don't have time to sit around and waste 4 hours doing that.. however, i'll leave u with this:
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You say it's 70/30... I'm not sure that's been proven.
Looks closer to 50/50 to me... and 70/30 is just barely enough for you to even be making the claims your making—and considering how ardent you have been about it you need even more than 70/30 to be fuccin calling people disingenuous
Duck Duck Doggy:
So I went back and listened to Relapse Revovery and MMLP2 and bro it's not even close. Relapse with the Refill tracks is better than both of those albums by far. Dre's production was a near his peak and Em is still rapping his butt off. Flow is still there he still had rhythm and soul
Recovery. Some good tracks here but the sound has drastically shifted. I think around this time Eminem was killed and cloned and we got a completely new artist. Honestly he should have another name as an artist from this point on because it's like two completely separate artists and careers
MMLP2. I like the replay value for this album better than Recovery. I like the old school rap rock thing Rick Rubin was doing for the production and beastie boy Eminem flow is better than the other yelling flow with no rhythm but this album really shouldn't have been called mmlp2. I think looking at it as a sequel just creates unnecessary expectations and then you are automatically disappointed whereas if it had a different title we'd just be happy it was better than recovery and say Em is back!!
Unfortunately the worst Em followed this with Revival which to me only had 1 good track.
The albums following this were better but still missing that special intangible quality that made em em
Think his sobriety streak has something to do with this.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: TraceOneInfinite on May 24, 2025, 01:50:45 AM ---You say it's 70/30... I'm not sure that's been proven.
Looks closer to 50/50 to me... and 70/30 is just barely enough for you to even be making the claims your making—and considering how ardent you have been about it you need even more than 70/30 to be fuccin calling people disingenuous
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ummm
you're still being disingenuous even in this post lmao
my disingenuous claim was about you nitpicking positive reviews from recovery and negative reviews from relapse to paint a picture as if more people liked recovery
and u know that's what i meant
so why continue being fake?
i get your entire life is predicated on being a contrarian .. but it should never be at the expense of keepin it real
70/30 was being generous .. in this thread on an eminem forum it's more like 90/10:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/xvee3q/recovery_or_relapse_i_prefer_recovery/
and i literally just showed u the answer from chatgpt ... are u guna deny chatgpt as a source too?
:lulz:
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Duck Duck Doggy on May 24, 2025, 10:03:13 AM ---So I went back and listened to Relapse Revovery and MMLP2 and bro it's not even close. Relapse with the Refill tracks is better than both of those albums by far. Dre's production was a near his peak and Em is still rapping his butt off. Flow is still there he still had rhythm and soul
Recovery. Some good tracks here but the sound has drastically shifted. I think around this time Eminem was killed and cloned and we got a completely new artist. Honestly he should have another name as an artist from this point on because it's like two completely separate artists and careers
MMLP2. I like the replay value for this album better than Recovery. I like the old school rap rock thing Rick Rubin was doing for the production and beastie boy Eminem flow is better than the other yelling flow with no rhythm but this album really shouldn't have been called mmlp2. I think looking at it as a sequel just creates unnecessary expectations and then you are automatically disappointed whereas if it had a different title we'd just be happy it was better than recovery and say Em is back!!
Unfortunately the worst Em followed this with Revival which to me only had 1 good track.
The albums following this were better but still missing that special intangible quality that made em em
Think his sobriety streak has something to do with this.
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spot on
Duck Duck Doggy:
Been bumping relapse with refill today this is vintage Eminem & Dre tbh
Infinite was saying how em wasn't talking what was going on in his life and didn't talk about proof. Deja Vu is probably one of the most personal songs he's ever made and he literally raps about losing proof and spiraling into a drug addict
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