This Year I'm Dropping BOSS I Promise

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

we live in the age where albums are irrelevant - the internet has killed the CD sale industry and you gotta admire a guy who can put out quality mixtapes and stay relevant without his own album for 10 years.

  Disagree. Albums are still by and large the measuring stick for what a great artist is. It's hard to be credible amongst the best in the game without having a "classic album" to your name.

This. Internet rappers don't make an impact outside of the internet

[Chamillitary Click]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

[Chamillitary Click]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

[EFFeX]

As a long time fan, I want to see him accomplish the official debut album release. It will be nice to see.

However, I'm not stressing it at all and don't hold it against him. He's dropped so much music over the years, I have a bigger collection of free Crooked I music than most artists drop in stores throughout their entire career.

Dude has had an interesting career and it's in no way a failure, if you add up all the separate accomplishments as an artist without a debut album, it's actually pretty impressive.

As long as we keep getting quality music, I really don't care what format it's in.

With that being said... The day the album drops in stores, I'm picking up multiple copies, lol!

[COBNinja]

crooked gives me free quality music ....i could give a fuck if he ever drops his album.  but if dude does i'll certainly cop it.  I bought Block obama 2 and it has GREAT replay value....tracks 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6 are still in heavy rotation 2 years later


"they" and "go hard go home" are fuckin bangers too



we live in the age where albums are irrelevant - the internet has killed the CD sale industry and you gotta admire a guy who can put out quality mixtapes and stay relevant without his own album for 10 years.   plus he makes that ghost writer $$$

This
One thing i hate about Crooked is that he always shouts out when hes dropping something than it doesnt come out.
Dude needs to stop doing that
Cant hate though, because he puts in mad work and drops alot of free bars for us fans.

[Chamillitary Click]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

I didn't say that..lol.

I'm saying dropping one now, in 2010, isn't going to help him anymore than if he never makes one; not to mention like I said, nothing since "The Marshall Mathers LP" has been put in that "elite" class of albums, almost comparable to the 90's classics, so guys like T.I. & Game & Royce don't get mention as "one of the greats" anyway. So I'm like 99% sure an album from Crooked I this year, going into a new decade of Hip Hop, isn't going to be regarded as great. So basically, he already missed his boat, he can't make up for it now. So I have no reason to demand an album from him.

If you truly think T.I. & Game are better rappers than Crooked I, that's fine with me; I just disagree.

However, I'm not stressing it at all and don't hold it against him. He's dropped so much music over the years, I have a bigger collection of free Crooked I music than most artists drop in stores throughout their entire career.

As long as we keep getting quality music, I really don't care what format it's in.

Word.

[Action!]

I prefer what Bishop Lamont or Charles Hamilton is doing than Crooked.  They're actually releasing tracks (be it new or old).  Essentially, I can just compile an album of my own liking.  Though, for Crooked I can't because he's freestyle-holic. 

But, it's all FREE music (even when it isn't) and, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I agree I dig the quality.

[OG Hack Wilson]

Crooked I should learn his lesson and just stop announcing release dates.  Last I heard, he was supposed to have an e.p. out the 4th of this month, but since that's two days away and I've seen no listing or promotion for it, I doubt that's going to happen either.  On top of that, they've already announced a Slaughterhouse e.p. for August 31, and Crooked I's official solo album for September 28.  I really have no faith in any of these dates and don't know why they even bother announcing them.

only thing dude released on time was Block Obama vol 2

Yeah.  I've got to give it to him, on that one.  That one came out right when he said it would.  Now if only he could do that all of the time.  Or at least, most of the time.

not only was it on time, but block obama vol 2 has MAD replay value

[OG Hack Wilson]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

I didn't say that..lol.

I'm saying dropping one now, in 2010, isn't going to help him anymore than if he never makes one; not to mention like I said, nothing since "The Marshall Mathers LP" has been put in that "elite" class of albums, almost comparable to the 90's classics, so guys like T.I. & Game & Royce don't get mention as "one of the greats" anyway. So I'm like 99% sure an album from Crooked I this year, going into a new decade of Hip Hop, isn't going to be regarded as great. So basically, he already missed his boat, he can't make up for it now. So I have no reason to demand an album from him.

If you truly think T.I. & Game are better rappers than Crooked I, that's fine with me; I just disagree.

However, I'm not stressing it at all and don't hold it against him. He's dropped so much music over the years, I have a bigger collection of free Crooked I music than most artists drop in stores throughout their entire career.

As long as we keep getting quality music, I really don't care what format it's in.

Word.

TI ahead of Crooked?

muhahahaha that's just silly



i mean shit is a nigga gonna say Shaggy 2 Dope is better than Crooked I cuz Shaggy has an album?

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

I didn't say that..lol.

I'm saying dropping one now, in 2010, isn't going to help him anymore than if he never makes one; not to mention like I said, nothing since "The Marshall Mathers LP" has been put in that "elite" class of albums, almost comparable to the 90's classics, so guys like T.I. & Game & Royce don't get mention as "one of the greats" anyway. So I'm like 99% sure an album from Crooked I this year, going into a new decade of Hip Hop, isn't going to be regarded as great. So basically, he already missed his boat, he can't make up for it now. So I have no reason to demand an album from him.

If you truly think T.I. & Game are better rappers than Crooked I, that's fine with me; I just disagree.

Lol, I'm not expecting dude to drop an elite, undisputed classic. Only a few rappers actually accomplish that. But no album at all? Don't pretend like that's the same as a rapper dropping great, well-received albums. Game has The Documentary, Kanye has The College Dropout, Lupe has Food & Liquor. Crooked I? All I can tell someone is to check out duke's freestyles, he can spit. Or check out his hip hop weekly. Impressive, but do you really see that the same as putting out a great album? I have to roll my eyes at people who say an album doesn't matter but then they are in the next thread judging the rappers who actually do put out albums. Saying so-and-so fell off because their album isn't as good. And then other people jumping in and defending the album with a passion. That in itself should tell you that an album matters, even if you won't admit it here. And how would putting out an album make Crooked I a sellout? He already raps over other rappers' pop beats, its not like having original ones for himself would make a big difference.

I think its very telling that you don't want an album because you don't want people to call him a sellout or say his album is wack. You may be afraid of the fan's reaction, but guess what, that's what every other rapper has to go through. It's a part of being a recording artist, and a big part of the reason I don't compare him to the artists who do put out albums. Crooked I has shielded himself from criticism and judgment by leaking music over the internet without ever dropping an official body of his work. His music has never been under a scope. He leaks songs, we keep the ones we like and delete the ones we don't like, never to listen to them again. We have never known if he can hold down an album. Think about what it takes for a rapper to put out an album and have people judge it and compare it to other albums. Crooked I has never gone through that. I think its time for that to change, and time for Crooked I to grow up.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

I didn't say that..lol.

I'm saying dropping one now, in 2010, isn't going to help him anymore than if he never makes one; not to mention like I said, nothing since "The Marshall Mathers LP" has been put in that "elite" class of albums, almost comparable to the 90's classics, so guys like T.I. & Game & Royce don't get mention as "one of the greats" anyway. So I'm like 99% sure an album from Crooked I this year, going into a new decade of Hip Hop, isn't going to be regarded as great. So basically, he already missed his boat, he can't make up for it now. So I have no reason to demand an album from him.

If you truly think T.I. & Game are better rappers than Crooked I, that's fine with me; I just disagree.

However, I'm not stressing it at all and don't hold it against him. He's dropped so much music over the years, I have a bigger collection of free Crooked I music than most artists drop in stores throughout their entire career.

As long as we keep getting quality music, I really don't care what format it's in.

Word.

TI ahead of Crooked?

muhahahaha that's just silly



i mean shit is a nigga gonna say Shaggy 2 Dope is better than Crooked I cuz Shaggy has an album?

Shaggy's a good example. Shaggy has an album, so why do people think he's wack? Cause its not a good album. Dude had a couple of pop singles, a wack album, and disappeared off the face of the earth. Because people judged and criticized the albums he put out and they weren't shit.

[Chamillitary Click]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

I didn't say that..lol.

I'm saying dropping one now, in 2010, isn't going to help him anymore than if he never makes one; not to mention like I said, nothing since "The Marshall Mathers LP" has been put in that "elite" class of albums, almost comparable to the 90's classics, so guys like T.I. & Game & Royce don't get mention as "one of the greats" anyway. So I'm like 99% sure an album from Crooked I this year, going into a new decade of Hip Hop, isn't going to be regarded as great. So basically, he already missed his boat, he can't make up for it now. So I have no reason to demand an album from him.

If you truly think T.I. & Game are better rappers than Crooked I, that's fine with me; I just disagree.

Lol, I'm not expecting dude to drop an elite, undisputed classic. Only a few rappers actually accomplish that. But no album at all? Don't pretend like that's the same as a rapper dropping great, well-received albums. Game has The Documentary, Kanye has The College Dropout, Lupe has Food & Liquor. Crooked I? All I can tell someone is to check out duke's freestyles, he can spit. Or check out his hip hop weekly. Impressive, but do you really see that the same as putting out a great album? I have to roll my eyes at people who say an album doesn't matter but then they are in the next thread judging the rappers who actually do put out albums. Saying so-and-so fell off because their album isn't as good. And then other people jumping in and defending the album with a passion. That in itself should tell you that an album matters, even if you won't admit it here. And how would putting out an album make Crooked I a sellout? He already raps over other rappers' pop beats, its not like having original ones for himself would make a big difference.

I think its very telling that you don't want an album because you don't want people to call him a sellout or say his album is wack. You may be afraid of the fan's reaction, but guess what, that's what every other rapper has to go through. It's a part of being a recording artist, and a big part of the reason I don't compare him to the artists who do put out albums. Crooked I has shielded himself from criticism and judgment by leaking music over the internet without ever dropping an official body of his work. His music has never been under a scope. He leaks songs, we keep the ones we like and delete the ones we don't like, never to listen to them again. We have never known if he can hold down an album. Think about what it takes for a rapper to put out an album and have people judge it and compare it to other albums. Crooked I has never gone through that. I think its time for that to change, and time for Crooked I to grow up.

I could care less what people will think of his album; because look at Slaughterhouse, that is an album no matter which way you slice it & people shitted on it. Blamed the "production".

Which is why I don't get why he needs original production for it to get hated on, when he can just use the best beats around lol.

To me, he's already one of the best rappers of the day & I don't need an album to think it; his skills are just better than 99% of everybody else in the game today. That's Hip Hop, to me; just out-spitting people.

There was battle-rapping, there was no albums involved; just freestyling trying to diss each other, proving whose better.

Also, where did this "master-list" come into play anyway? If you and me made our GOAT lists, I'm sure we would have a few matching ones, but CERTAINLY not in the same order. Point being, why do we "need" to rate them? There is not one GOAT list by ANYBODY that has an credibility as "the perfect list" because everybody has a different opinion.

So Crooked I is obviously last on your list, behind Soulja Boy, Gucci Mane & Plies, that's fine, he ranks higher for me, but I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.

[OG Hack Wilson]

What difference does it make? Do you REALLY think he can make a classic album? Even if he does, nobody will admit it lol.

There hasn't been an album since "The Marshall Mathers LP" that people legitimately put in the talks of greatest albums; nobody would dare say anything made in 2010 comes relatively close to something from 1996 & you all know that. Yet you push Crooked I like you "might consider" him, if you're all feeling generous enough with all your guys SUPER ridiculous credibility as one of the greats.

If he makes one album & it's classic, it's not enough; you're only going to say "Oh, he needs like three more of these if he wants some sort of consideration".

It's a lose-lose whichever way you slice it, so you all need to stop complaining about Crooked I, just enjoy what he makes & listen to other rap lol.

Not every rapper makes a classic. TI hasn't made a classic. The Game hasn't made a classic. Royce hasn't made a classic. But these guys are all considered legitimate hip hop artists because they have made a career out of putting out good albums. Crooked I doesn't have that basis to judge him on.

Whose the guy who made the law "Thou must put out album to be judged"? At this point in time, I'd rather Crooked I say he's doing another year long Hip Hop Weekly Series than get a T.I., Game & maybe even a Royce album.

All Crooked would do on an album is "sellout" in most people's eyes, because he wants to sell & people already called him a "sellout" for "Dream Big" & if he kept it real & didn't sell over 5,000 copies, people would shit on that & say the album is wack too lol.

I'm not saying I don't want an album or anything, I'd perfer he made one; but if he doesn't, considering the times, it doesn't matter to me that he doesn't.

Anyway, he made an album, it's called "Slaughterhouse".

I don't buy into Crooked dropping an album this year, but I guess we'll see.

So you're saying if he had dropped 5 albums in the last 10 years instead of leaking freestyles over the internet it would have had the same or lesser impact on his career? Don't make me laugh. You need to take a step back and look at this realistically. Yes albums do matter. They have always mattered. Just because you really like a rapper who hasn't dropped an album doesn't make him an exception. Take Crooked I out of the picture for a minute, and think about what makes the greats so "great". It has always been their albums. Nas didn't become a legend because of his features or his freestyles. Imagine Nas had never dropped Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, or any of his other albums, and imagine instead he had only leaked songs over the internet, the majority of them freestyling over other people's beats. Would his career be anywhere near the same it is now? Of course not. He would be a rapper who can spit but he wouldn't be anywhere near a goat list. The same goes for Crooked I. Yes, we like him. Yes, he can spit his ass off. But he's not comparable to artists who have dropped great albums during the course of their careers.

I didn't say that..lol.

I'm saying dropping one now, in 2010, isn't going to help him anymore than if he never makes one; not to mention like I said, nothing since "The Marshall Mathers LP" has been put in that "elite" class of albums, almost comparable to the 90's classics, so guys like T.I. & Game & Royce don't get mention as "one of the greats" anyway. So I'm like 99% sure an album from Crooked I this year, going into a new decade of Hip Hop, isn't going to be regarded as great. So basically, he already missed his boat, he can't make up for it now. So I have no reason to demand an album from him.

If you truly think T.I. & Game are better rappers than Crooked I, that's fine with me; I just disagree.

However, I'm not stressing it at all and don't hold it against him. He's dropped so much music over the years, I have a bigger collection of free Crooked I music than most artists drop in stores throughout their entire career.

As long as we keep getting quality music, I really don't care what format it's in.

Word.

TI ahead of Crooked?

muhahahaha that's just silly



i mean shit is a nigga gonna say Shaggy 2 Dope is better than Crooked I cuz Shaggy has an album?

Shaggy's a good example. Shaggy has an album, so why do people think he's wack? Cause its not a good album. Dude had a couple of pop singles, a wack album, and disappeared off the face of the earth. Because people judged and criticized the albums he put out and they weren't shit.

umm are you referring to the same SHAGGY 2 DOPE that i am?


pop singles???






this guy's rap group has sold more copies without any form of radio or MTV play than 99% of rappers ever will WITH radio + mtv


doesn't mean he's more talented than Crooked