Author Topic: Is 2Pac over rated?  (Read 935 times)

amazing25

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2010, 03:21:27 PM »
^^Co sign..His fans made him to be such a huge sufferer.

"no man alive has ever witnessed struggle i survived"
 :'(

Fuck, if he was alive i would slap the fuck outta his crying bitchass..But wait..How could  i? He could fight 300 men with 1 arm and would squeeze a silver cup(like Pieter The Great Did)...

What other myths are you gonna create about William Wallace, i mean 2Pac....He could climb a mountain with swords and could sleep with his eyes open and would defeat an english army by himself... ;D

We Gotta start making changes oh yeah baby comon....But First we gonna shoot the bitchz ass nigguz,slap them hoes, hit up their crib,fuck them hoes, than we gonna belive in Lord Savior, make heartfelt songs, than we gonna fuck some more niggaz up,kick their heads, coz we HEARTLESS...than we gonna ask Lord if there is a heaven and if my sufferings will end...

Oh yeah ,and before all that, we gonna act all fruity and dance with Digital Underground,making La La Gay shit...We gotta do that before all the gangsta shit.



 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2010, 03:28:03 PM »
"How Could they punish me ever more for i been punished already"

-Dumb Bitch "Whats that"

-2Fag-"By Being shot 5 times"

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Take his ass to Iraq,Cuba or some 3rd World Countries...Africa..That nigga would cry to mommy asking to take him back to Digitral Underground days dancing with gay ass haircuts and shit.

Seriously...That Nigga had the worst life ever..I mean Cops trynna sue him, harass him...Poor Baby.

Take his ass to Russian army.Oh God, That man would be Drake status if he was in there...
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2010, 03:28:20 PM »
^^Co sign..His fans made him to be such a huge sufferer.

"no man alive has ever witnessed struggle i survived"
 :'(

Fuck, if he was alive i would slap the fuck outta his crying bitchass..But wait..How could  i? He could fight 300 men with 1 arm and would squeeze a silver cup(like Pieter The Great Did)...

What other myths are you gonna create about William Wallace, i mean 2Pac....He could climb a mountain with swords and could sleep with his eyes open and would defeat an english army by himself... ;D

We Gotta start making changes oh yeah baby comon....But First we gonna shoot the bitchz ass nigguz,slap them hoes, hit up their crib,fuck them hoes, than we gonna belive in Lord Savior, make heartfelt songs, than we gonna fuck some more niggaz up,kick their heads, coz we HEARTLESS...than we gonna ask Lord if there is a heaven and if my sufferings will end...

Oh yeah ,and before all that, we gonna act all fruity and dance with Digital Underground,making La La Gay shit...We gotta do that before all the gangsta shit.





Ahh the classic black mail material interview... skip past that nonsense to this clip, they call girls the bbb b-word..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/A5SO9205Bc0" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/A5SO9205Bc0</a>

 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2010, 03:31:10 PM »
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I cannot belive west coast gave this "ACTOR" a pass...I mean we gave a pass to a nigga that was on Change of heart.but at least he wasnt acting all fruity.

I mean, NO MAN ALIVE HAS EVER WITNESSED STRUGGLE THIS MAN SURVIVED...being 17 dancing, getting paid,being interviewd on camera...

Such a hard life man!
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2010, 03:40:22 PM »
No. i was gonna quote a reason for why he isn't, but a lot of people here have hit the nail on the head with different reasons
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2010, 03:43:36 PM »
hardly listen to his music anymore dude was straight average as fuck
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 08:18:15 PM »
Perhaps as a rapper for his rap ability, but as far as him as a Hip Hop star, not at all. To be the best in a profession, it takes just more than skill alone. A lot of people could have torn 2Pac apart lyrically back in 96, but it was his personality, charisma, and passion which puts him above others

Cosign.  He was the most poetic and had rawest and realest lyrics.  I think that is why a lot of people felt him cuz he rapped about shit a lot of the time that touched most people.  

Also he was the most emotional and that is what music is about... sad, happy, angry, whatever.  He could do it.  He can convincingly go from Changes to Hitemup to Cali Love to Brenda's Got a Baby
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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2010, 08:25:02 PM »
no he isn't

he s the truest  nigga ever touched the mic


you mean the same nigga that wanted to be a ballerina?
Guess who back in the motherfuckin house
With a fat dick for your motherfuckin mouth
Hoes recognize, niggaz do too
Cuz when bitches get skanless and pull a voodoo.....
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2010, 08:32:57 PM »
no he isn't

he s the truest  nigga ever touched the mic


you mean the same nigga that wanted to be a ballerina?

and the nigga who cringed at the bbb b-word?
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2010, 11:08:55 PM »
Ppl gotta remember, lyrical ability isn't the end all be all. A true MC is well rounded. Some of these lyrical dudes can't write a song to save their asses or they try and tell a story or deliver a message and it gets lost in a bunch of metaphors and lyrical parades. Pac was the most lyrical, but he wasn't Soulja Boy either. I'd give him a B on lyrical skills. But he had a presence on the mic or what the kids call swagger now. He could tell a great story painting a image that your imagination would wrap around. He could bring out raw emotions on records. Do records that make you sad, happy, angry or just want to whoop a motherfuckers ass. The only rappers I can think of off the top that a real raw with their emotions are DMX, Eminem and Tech N9ne. He had versatility and could rap about anything. He had something to say and there were times when he would go crazy on the mic and times when I knew to hold back and let the message sink in
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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2010, 11:13:51 PM »
4 classics? Naw, I'm pretty sure he isn't overrated.
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2010, 12:08:10 AM »
Asking this question in here is about as worthwhile as asking if Eminem is overrated at a D-12 concert. This subject has come up like a million times before and really hasn't brought that much in terms of interesting conversation. Tupac Shakur was undoubtly one of the very best artists that mainstream hip-hop music has ever had but that being said, the volume of people who seem to think that everything he does is perfect and that it's blasphemy to think otherwise is ridicilous. He's an interesting figure because on the one hand, he introduced a lot of ideas to hip-hop audiences that they may not ever have thought about or accepted if another voice had spoken on them but they also seemed to accept his take on these issues as "gospel" rather than attempting to expand their knowledge on these issues. I think in the wake of his death, a lot of super-fans started running around with these romanticized notions of a person they never met based on his interviews and music. I mean, the guy was a tremendously compelling speaker but sometimes, it's like people are so caught up in the extra shit that it turns into something else.

"Pac was the truest and most real". Well, how do we know this? And furthermore, why is it neccesary for great art to be a reflection of reality? I'd suggest it's less about the actual reality of it but more the perceived reality and how the listener relates to it. It's not about who is the most honest but whose story speaks most directly to their audience. I mean, if a rapper wrote an album where he said he thought about kissing dudes, hated his old hood, beat and raped women, and was only in music because he loved the money, would he be considered "one of the realest" because he spoke the truth? I think Pac's unique genius wasn't he always told the truth because he didn't. It was that he told stories with a better understanding of the human condition than most and with a level of vunerability.

As far as "overrated", I don't know what to say. It's the Eminem situation where even though I think he's among the all-time most talented in his field, the absurdly-hyperbolic statements made by a large portion of his fan base make me cringe at times. If Ice Cube can be overrated or Biggie or Dr. Dre or Snoop or Nas then why is Pac exempt from the debate?
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2010, 07:11:03 AM »
Pac Over-rated..that the funniest talk I've ever heard in my life..

ain't no rapper dead or alive that can contest with Pac...
 

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Re: Is 2Pac over rated?
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2010, 07:41:56 AM »
Asking this question in here is about as worthwhile as asking if Eminem is overrated at a D-12 concert. This subject has come up like a million times before and really hasn't brought that much in terms of interesting conversation. Tupac Shakur was undoubtly one of the very best artists that mainstream hip-hop music has ever had but that being said, the volume of people who seem to think that everything he does is perfect and that it's blasphemy to think otherwise is ridicilous. He's an interesting figure because on the one hand, he introduced a lot of ideas to hip-hop audiences that they may not ever have thought about or accepted if another voice had spoken on them but they also seemed to accept his take on these issues as "gospel" rather than attempting to expand their knowledge on these issues. I think in the wake of his death, a lot of super-fans started running around with these romanticized notions of a person they never met based on his interviews and music. I mean, the guy was a tremendously compelling speaker but sometimes, it's like people are so caught up in the extra shit that it turns into something else.

"Pac was the truest and most real". Well, how do we know this? And furthermore, why is it neccesary for great art to be a reflection of reality? I'd suggest it's less about the actual reality of it but more the perceived reality and how the listener relates to it. It's not about who is the most honest but whose story speaks most directly to their audience. I mean, if a rapper wrote an album where he said he thought about kissing dudes, hated his old hood, beat and raped women, and was only in music because he loved the money, would he be considered "one of the realest" because he spoke the truth? I think Pac's unique genius wasn't he always told the truth because he didn't. It was that he told stories with a better understanding of the human condition than most and with a level of vunerability.

As far as "overrated", I don't know what to say. It's the Eminem situation where even though I think he's among the all-time most talented in his field, the absurdly-hyperbolic statements made by a large portion of his fan base make me cringe at times. If Ice Cube can be overrated or Biggie or Dr. Dre or Snoop or Nas then why is Pac exempt from the debate?

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