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YEA..... Lebron Is Much Better
Sccit:
so if Kobe gets 4 consecutive Finals MVP to Jordan's 3, that's not another individual accolade where Kobe 1-upped Jordan? come on, now...some of the arguments are just RIDICULOUS.
Sccit:
As for this notion that Kobe hasn't had great final games...ha! lets start from the beginning. In 2000, Kobe got injured in Game 2 of the Finals vs. Indiana...he sat out Game 3 and Pacers took that game... the series was then 2-1 in favor of the Lakers, but there were two more games to go in Indiana. In Game 4, Shaq fouled out in the 4th and the game went to overtime...with the Pacers lookin to take control of the series by winning the game with Shaq out, Kobe took over and single-handedly won the game for the Lakers in OT with his clutch performance...AT THE AGE of 21! Lakers don't win that game, and they coulda very well lost the series....
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006140IND.html
How bout Game 2 of the '01 Finals? After Philadelphia stole the first game in overtime, Lakers were looking at going down 0-2 with 3 consecutive games to go in Philadelphia. Another classic 4th quarter performance, which coulda ultimately saved the Lakers. Again, Lakers don't win that game, and they coulda very well lost the series...Kobe was the game leader in points and minutes played for that game, and what age was he? twenty-fuckin-two.
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200106080LAL.html
Now the series is tied 1-1 with three games to go in Philadelphia...Game 3: Kobe played 48 minutes, Shaq again fouls out, and Kobe leads the Lakers in scoring for that game which gives the Lakers a 2-1 lead...Not great?:
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200106100PHI.html
Following game...an assist shy from a triple double:
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200106130PHI.html
This one vs. New Jersey is pretty whack too..
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200206090NJN.html
Game 1 of the 2009 Finals...Lakers set the tone against Orlando by showing dominance behind Kobe's game-leading 40 points, in which he more than doubled the point total of anyone else on the court, almost collecting a triple double in the process. I guess it's not great enough, though?
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200906040LAL.html
Clinching game of the '09 Finals, who led the game in scoring? and more blocks than Dwight Howard? Ooohweee, dominating BOTH ends...but there's nothing great in leading the winning game of a championship series in offensive AND defensive stats...
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200906140ORL.html
Game 1 of this years Finals...Who led the game in scoring? who set the tone? Yea, but there's nothing great about that....
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006030LAL.html
Game 3, with the series tied 1-1 and 3 games to go in Boston, who else but Kobe leads the game in offensive and defensive stats?
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006080BOS.html
Game 6, Lakers down 3-2, they lose this game, they go home...again, who else but Kobe is gunna lead the game in scoring?...and even in steals...and he even outrebounded everyone on the Celtics. At this point, Kobe was mentioned by analysts as a possible Finals MVP even if the Lakers lose! But the greatness is not there, is it?...LOL.
Box Score:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201006150LAL.html
...and I'm not even gunna include Game 7 in the great category, even though Kobe got it done on the boards when his shot wasn't falling, grabbing more rebounds than Jordan EVER did in a Finals game...but that's just one more stat he has on Jordan.
Honestly, though, do you feel stupid yet for saying Kobe hasn't been great in the Finals? LOL
teecee:
I know you aren't calling Kobe's game 7 performance from this year great? I mean, shooting 25% in the biggest game of the year? ALso, you point out games where Kobe led the game in scoring, so it must have been great...isn't that what he is supposed to do???
NIK, I never said Kobe hasn't had a good GAME in the finals, but has he had a GREAT finals series? NO. Does he have a top 10, even top 20 finals performance (1 game or series) of all time?
Chamillitary Click:
How was his Finals performance in 2006? lmfao.
teecee:
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on August 23, 2010, 12:43:17 PM ---How was his Finals performance in 2006? lmfao.
--- End quote ---
Word!
NIK even has a 10 for 29 game in there!
Yes, Kobe has had a few GREAT games in the finals, but, considering he's been in 7, where is his transcendant game like MJ and Magic had?
Fact: Kobe Bryant does NOT have a top 10 finals, or even a game in the top 10.
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