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lady gaga is fuckin whack and its a shame to see more people duped by her marketing. shes marketed as a "smart popstar", so even if you look down on pop music and say its whack then you can still admit you like her and not feel lame because shes "different" and "writes her own songs"personally i think its all a load of shit. i mean i like pop artists like the dream, beyonce etc. because i think they have great songs. lady gaga is cheap fuckin euro-pop for the american masses (and trust me on this cause growing up in europe this is just normal pop music). her music is nothing special at all, its all image, and people bought it.
Quote from: SCREWFACE on August 04, 2010, 02:26:32 AMlady gaga is fuckin whack and its a shame to see more people duped by her marketing. shes marketed as a "smart popstar", so even if you look down on pop music and say its whack then you can still admit you like her and not feel lame because shes "different" and "writes her own songs"personally i think its all a load of shit. i mean i like pop artists like the dream, beyonce etc. because i think they have great songs. lady gaga is cheap fuckin euro-pop for the american masses (and trust me on this cause growing up in europe this is just normal pop music). her music is nothing special at all, its all image, and people bought it.LOL The Dream? Are you serious? He makes the most generic songs I've ever heard. And if you wanna talk about beats, again seriously... The Dream?? You been brainwashed by this American production? Beyonce and Dream are more RnB tho so it's a moot point.If you don't recognize how Gaga got talent, you ain't hear NEARLY enough artists in the "Pop" genre. I didn't even hear Gaga's album till this year, and I immediately liked it. How did her marketing scheme work on me when I ain't even know about it?Madonna had skill, Britney had skill... Gaga got skill. As much as you like to believe every single one of these artists are contrived and aren't real musicians, it's not true.. If you don't feel Pop at all tho, you gonna think all of those artists is whack anyways...
Beyonce and Dream are more RnB tho so it's a moot point.
And if you wanna discuss marketing further, The Dream's big marketing ploy is being a writer for famous artists, which is one of the points you listed for liking him...Duh...... Single Ladies was "If you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it"... That is no different than some shit Gaga would say and you know it.
You not listening to me B. I'm saying that whatever marketing she has, it has no effect on me. So for you to come at me saying that it was the marketing that made me like her and not the music itself is ludicrous.That's all I'm saying.Sometimes the artist is good, sometimes it's marketing. In this case, it's both. And for me, it was the music that made me like her. I could give two shits if she on Koch and only got one music video if she still put out that same CD I'ma bump her shit.AND I ain't never read any interviews of her or googled no photoshoots so fuck outta here with that theory.
Quote from: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 04, 2010, 04:13:26 AMYou not listening to me B. I'm saying that whatever marketing she has, it has no effect on me. So for you to come at me saying that it was the marketing that made me like her and not the music itself is ludicrous.That's all I'm saying.Sometimes the artist is good, sometimes it's marketing. In this case, it's both. And for me, it was the music that made me like her. I could give two shits if she on Koch and only got one music video if she still put out that same CD I'ma bump her shit.AND I ain't never read any interviews of her or googled no photoshoots so fuck outta here with that theory.dude like i already said im not saying YOU specifically have been duped by marketing, you've made that clear. im just throwing it out there because i think its an overlooked and interesting discussion. however, im curious about when you say "some actually earn their fame with true artistic ability" when referring to lady gaga. what i wanna know is how you have come to this opinion of her, just from listening to her music, how can you tell she has earned it through artistic ability over some other random pop star? everyone has this opinion of gaga (through good PR work or not) so im very interested to hear from someone who has this opinion that didnt get sweeped up in the marketing/PR side of things. what gives lady gagas music higher artistic value than other pop music? im very confused about this, as once you take away the artistic music videos and fashion, were is the high-art then? cause i dont hear it in the music.
You think if you give Katie Perry or CURRENT Christina Aguilera or CURRENT Britney Spears those beats, they gonna come up with some peculiar but catchy shit like Gaga does? Fuck no. There is some artistry hidden in her music.Matter of fact: If you listen to Christina's last album, she copping Gaga's whole style, and it sounds horrible. And Christina is a credible pop artist, so for her to not be upto par with Gaga says something.
She makes great commecrial music. The new Gwen Stefani in my opinion."Just Dance" was alright. But when she dropped that "Poker Face" shit I was like "Paparazzi" was ehh. She picked back up with "Love Game"Then she dropped basically like a pt2 to her album with "Telephone" f/ Beyonce - that shit blew up bigger than Poker Face. Same with "Bad Romance". Even "Alejandro" is catchy as fuck. She's an amazing writer and I believe she's only 24. Can't hate her. Although I'm predicting everyone on here will say they don't listen to her music cuz we know niggas on here are too gangsta for that.
You listen to the music over and over again for years and you really notice when a good artist comes along in the genre. Trust me. I'm sure you can do it with Hip-Hop. It's just the producer niche you get from being exposed to so much music.
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on August 03, 2010, 07:16:33 PMShe makes great commecrial music. The new Gwen Stefani in my opinion."Just Dance" was alright. But when she dropped that "Poker Face" shit I was like "Paparazzi" was ehh. She picked back up with "Love Game"Then she dropped basically like a pt2 to her album with "Telephone" f/ Beyonce - that shit blew up bigger than Poker Face. Same with "Bad Romance". Even "Alejandro" is catchy as fuck. She's an amazing writer and I believe she's only 24. Can't hate her. Although I'm predicting everyone on here will say they don't listen to her music cuz we know niggas on here are too gangsta for that.Naw man, I admit I listen to stuff like Cindy Lauper, Phil Collins, Sade, Alicia Keys. And I agree that Lady Gaga is talented as hell and I've seen her in interviews and she sounds very intelligent, but to me her music is STYLE over SUBSTANCE. It's not anything worth listening to, in my opinion.
dude im baning you mother over here in eu. but im not a white,brown,black,yellow etc. im your nightmare