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M Dogg™:
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--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PM ---Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
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Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
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jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
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Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Hack Wilson - real:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PM ---Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
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Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
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jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
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Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
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Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PM ---LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
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once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
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You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
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I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
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Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
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thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Sccit:
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PM ---Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
--- End quote ---
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
--- End quote ---
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
--- End quote ---
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
--- End quote ---
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
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kobe has better range than jordan and it's not even close, duno why u'd feel the need 2 argue that..
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PM ---Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season lol
and no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
--- End quote ---
Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
--- End quote ---
jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring ::)
--- End quote ---
Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
--- End quote ---
Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals
now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
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That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PM ---LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobe
you gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.
also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron :D
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once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
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You know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
--- End quote ---
I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
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Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.
You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it.
LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
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thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
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Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
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